Force Applied to Masses Suspended by Springs: Find Displacements

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The problem involves two masses suspended by springs and examines the effects of an applied downward force on their equilibrium positions. It requires finding the displacements of the masses due to the force and determining the equations of motion after the force is removed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss creating free body diagrams for the masses to analyze forces acting on them. There are suggestions to consider the equilibrium conditions and the effects of the applied force on the spring displacements.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using free body diagrams and have noted the relationship between force and displacement in springs. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup and the equations involved are being explored, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that the effect of gravity has already been accounted for in determining the equilibrium positions, which may influence the assumptions made in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A pair of masses M1, M2 is suspended vertically by a pair of spring, with spring constant k1, k2. ( see the attachment for the picture)

a.A downward force F is applied to bottom mass. Find the downward displacements d1 and d 2 of the equilibrium positions of the Mass M1and M2 due to the force. Note that effect of gravity is already taken into account in determing the equilibrium positions.


b.At time t =0, the downward force is removed. What are the equation of motion and initial conditions that determine the displacements d1(t) and d2(t) for t greater than 0? You need not solve the equations.


Homework Equations



m2g=k2x2
k2x2 + m2g+ m1g=k1x1
then i added them, I get 2m2g +m1g=k1x1

F=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution



m2g=k2x2
k2x2 + m2g+ m1g=k1x1
then i added them, I get 2m2g +m1g=k1x1.
after this, I have no idea how to solve this! please help!
 

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Btw, this is a Caltech problem!
 
For A, try creating separate free body diagrams for [itex]m_1[/itex] and [itex]m_2[/itex] and finding [itex]\Sigma F_y=F_{app}[/itex]. Then, solve each for [itex]d_1[/itex] and [itex]d_2[/itex].
 
a) Both springs will experience force F. Since they are already in equilibrium you can "ignore" the masses.
[tex]F=k_1d_1[/tex]
[tex]F=k_2d_2[/tex]
b) Simple SHM equations.
 

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