Force between particles in nucleus

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The problem involves calculating the minimum repulsive electrostatic force between two protons within the nucleus of a zinc atom, which contains 30 protons and 35 neutrons. The nucleus has a specified diameter, and the original poster is exploring how to determine the distance between the protons to compute the force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the distance of the protons and the electrostatic force, questioning how to calculate the maximum distance between them. They consider using formulas related to electrostatic potential energy but express uncertainty about the variables involved.
  • Some participants suggest simplifying the problem by considering the maximum distance two particles can achieve within the nucleus.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the influence of other protons on the repulsive force experienced by the two protons in question.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the maximum distance between protons, and there is recognition of the original poster's realization about the focus of the question.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific request for the force between just two protons and the implications of other protons in the nucleus.

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Homework Statement



The nucleus of a zinc atom has 30 protons and 35 neutrons, and a diameter of 4.00 x 10^-13 m.
What is the minimum repulsive electrostatic force between two protons in the nucleus.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure how to approach this. I understand that the minimum force will be when these protons are furthest apart. How do I calculate the maximum distance between the protons in the nucleus?
Using Electrostatic Force = -DeltaPotentialEnergy/distance?

I can calculate the spherical area of the nucleus, and calculate the number density of the protons, but I don't see how this helps. I could use ElectricalPotentialEnegy = q1q2/(4pi perm0 r) and use the known charge of a proton, but I still have two unknowns (r and Potential Energy).
Any ideas?
Thanks
 
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You seem to be overthinking this problem.

Imagine two particles are confined to be within a sphere of diameter D. How far apart can the two particles get?
 
Well, I see what you're saying for two particles. But if two protons in the zinc nucleus experience a repulsive force as a result of being at either end (maximum distance apart), then what about the repulsive force as a result of all of the other protons? How can I just ignore that?
 
Forget it - I've just realized that the question is only asking for the force between the two protons in question...
Thanks for your help.
 

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