Force between two long parallel conductors

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The discussion focuses on the forces between two long parallel conductors, specifically addressing the application of Fleming's Left Hand Rule and the Right Hand Rule in determining the direction of magnetic forces. Participants clarify that B1 and B2 represent the magnetic fields created by the currents in conductors AB and CD, respectively. The confusion arises from the misapplication of Fleming's Left Hand Rule, where the index finger should indicate the magnetic field direction, while the middle finger represents the current direction. Newton's Third Law is also referenced to explain the interaction between the forces acting on the conductors.

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revered members,
in the attachment given by me, B1 acts perpendicular to the plane of paper and inwards and B2 acts perpendicular to the plane of paper and outwards.
1)my assumption is due to magnetic lorentz force they are acting perpendicular . but why B1 acts inwards and B2 acts outwards.
2) also, it has been mentioned by fleming's left hand rule, F acts towards left, that is F due to current carrying conductor AB and by the same rule F acts towards right, that is F due to current carrying conductor CD.
according to fleming's left hand rule thumb will represent the direction of force, forefinger represents direction of magnetic field and middle finger represent the direction of current. but when i point my forefinger in the direction of current on AB my thumb points towards the left of AB. then how force due to AB point towards the right of AB. but it works fine when i do the same thing to the conductor CD when i point the forefinger in the direction of current.
my physics sir told that it is due to Newton's third law AB's force points towards CD and CD's force points towards AB. but how fleming's left hand rule applied here. please help

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Hello logearav,

logearav said:
in the attachment given by me, B1 acts perpendicular to the plane of paper and inwards and B2 acts perpendicular to the plane of paper and outwards.
1)my assumption is due to magnetic lorentz force they are acting perpendicular . but why B1 acts inwards and B2 acts outwards.

You can use the right hand rule for this. Put your right hand thumb in the direction of the current, and your fingers curl around in the direction of the field. http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing04.gif

A couple things to note on the figure. B1 is shown "attached" to the CD wire (I2), but keep in mind that B1 is caused by the AB wire (I1). similarly, B2 is caused by I2, even though the vector is attached to I1 wire in the figure.
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing10.gif

2) also, it has been mentioned by fleming's left hand rule, F acts towards left, that is F due to current carrying conductor AB and by the same rule F acts towards right, that is F due to current carrying conductor CD.
according to fleming's left hand rule thumb will represent the direction of force, forefinger represents direction of magnetic field and middle finger represent the direction of current. but when i point my forefinger in the direction of current on AB my thumb points towards the left of AB. then how force due to AB point towards the right of AB. but it works fine when i do the same thing to the conductor CD when i point the forefinger in the direction of current.
my physics sir told that it is due to Newton's third law AB's force points towards CD and CD's force points towards AB. but how fleming's left hand rule applied here. please help

I don't think you're using the left hand rule properly. Point your index finger in the direction of the field, not the current. You middle finger points in the direction of the current. http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing32.gif
 
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thanks a lot sir. excellent explanation.
 

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