Force Exerted by 20,000N Boulder in 0.4m^3 Tank

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The discussion revolves around the force exerted by a boulder weighing 20,000 N in a tank with a volume of 0.4 m³. Participants explore the relationship between weight, force, and buoyancy in this context.

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  • Participants discuss whether the force exerted is simply equal to the weight of the boulder. Some question the impact of surrounding water on the boulder's force. Others suggest calculating the buoyant force and its effect on the overall force exerted by the boulder.

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There is an active exploration of concepts related to buoyancy and force. Some participants have proposed calculations involving buoyant force, while others are verifying the reasoning behind these calculations. No consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants mention the need for the density of water and discuss the implications of buoyancy in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct approach to determining the force exerted by the boulder in the tank.

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I know the weight of the boulder is 20,000 N and the volume is 0.4 m^3
Wouldn't the answer just be 20,000? Since the force is the same thing as weight?
the options are:

(a) 12,460
(b) 17,860
(c) 16,080
(d) 14,450
(e) none of these
 
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I think this is what your looking for...

pressure = force/ area

p = 20000/0.4
= 50000 N/m^2
 
kuhatelyn said:
I know the weight of the boulder is 20,000 N and the volume is 0.4 m^3
Wouldn't the answer just be 20,000? Since the force is the same thing as weight?
the options are:

(a) 12,460
(b) 17,860
(c) 16,080
(d) 14,450
(e) none of these
Weight is a force of attraction due to gravity, yes.
Do you know a value for the density of water?
 
kuhatelyn said:
Wouldn't the answer just be 20,000? Since the force is the same thing as weight?
No. What effect does surrounding the boulder with water have?
 
Doc Al said:
No. What effect does surrounding the boulder with water have?

Oohhh, so I would calculate the buoyant force and then subtract that from the weight of the boulder, so I get the force that the boulder exerts on the ground?

If I multiply volume x density of water x force of gravity:
0.4 x 1000 x 9.8 = 3920
and then subtract this from 20,000 I get 16080.
Is that right?
 
kuhatelyn said:
Oohhh, so I would calculate the buoyant force and then subtract that from the weight of the boulder, so I get the force that the boulder exerts on the ground?
Exactly.

If I multiply volume x density of water x force of gravity:
0.4 x 1000 x 9.8 = 3920
and then subtract this from 20,000 I get 16080.
Is that right?
Looks good to me.
 
Thank you! :)
 

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