Force given mass, velocity, and displacement

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The problem involves calculating the force exerted on a bullet as it travels through the barrel of a rifle, given its mass, velocity, and the length of the barrel. The subject area pertains to dynamics and kinematics, specifically focusing on the relationship between force, mass, acceleration, and displacement.

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  • Participants discuss various methods to calculate the force, including using kinematic equations and the work-energy theorem. Some question the validity of using the equation x = vt under conditions of acceleration, while others suggest considering conservation of energy to find the initial speed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning assumptions about the equations used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the appropriate use of kinematic equations and the work-energy theorem, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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Participants note the importance of understanding initial speed and the implications of using constant acceleration in their calculations. There is mention of coursework relevance regarding energy conservation, which may influence the approach taken.

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Homework Statement


A 6.0 g bullet leaves the muzzle of a rifle with a speed of 338 m/s. What force (assumed constant) is exerted on the bullet while it is traveling down the 0.9 m long barrel of the rifle?


Homework Equations


F=ma
x=vt
a=v/t

The Attempt at a Solution


x=vt
.9m=338m/s t
t=.0027s

a=v/t
a=338 m/s /.0027s
a=126937.8 m/s2

F=ma
F=.006kg (126937.8 m/s2)
F=761.6N
 
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You cannot use x = vt. It is valid only when the acceleration is zero - not the case here. Instead, start with the kinematic equation that relates displacement, acceleration and speed and has no explicit time dependence.
 
First let me just ask you a question. Is your context now up to energy (or example, conservation of energy)?

For this problem you are giving the length of the path, or the height.
And you have the final speed.

Using conservation of energy you will be able to find the the initial speed. This will allow you to compute the force using work-kinetic energy theorem which involves velocity (in this case our initial velocity).

However, using your approach. It can be done too.

What you need didn't take into account is exactly the notion of "initial speed".
Have your initial speed compute, and use whatever you have, find the acceleration, and finally get the force.
 
v^2=Vo^2 + a x is this right?
338^2 m/s=a (.9m)
a=63468.9 m/s^2

F=ma
F= .006kg (63468.9m/s^2)
F=380.8N

correct?
 
mandy9008 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


x=vt
.9m=338m/s t
t=.0027s

Sorry, but the above 'x = vt' equation only applies to objects moving at a constant velocity. This problem assumes a constant force (thus constant acceleration) which is quite different. Your value for t isn't correct.

If you must use kinematics to solve this problem, try one of your other equations that assume a constant acceleration. (It is possible to solve this problem using kinematics but there is an easier way [see below]).

But I should point out that there is an easier way to solve this problem using the work-energy theorem; a way of expressing conservation of energy. Here are some questions,
(a) What is the definition of work, W, done by a constant force over a given distance?
(b) What is the definition of kinetic energy, given an object's mass and velocity?
 
mandy9008 said:
v^2=Vo^2 + a x is this right?

You left out a '2', but you got the right answer below so I assume it was just a typo. Just to be clear, the equation is,

vf2 = v02 + 2ax

338^2 m/s=a (.9m)
a=63468.9 m/s^2

F=ma
F= .006kg (63468.9m/s^2)
F=380.8N

correct?

Looks okay to me :approve:

(ps. if you are up to the point in your coursework where are are studying work and conservation of energy, I suggest you solve it that way too. If not, you have something to look forward to.)
 

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