Force of gravity involving astrology

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force between a newborn baby and both Mars and an obstetrician, using Newton's law of gravitation. The original poster expresses confusion over arriving at a negative result while using the gravitational formula, despite the inputs being positive.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's law of gravitation and the calculations involved. There are questions about the arithmetic process and calculator usage, particularly regarding the handling of scientific notation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on potential arithmetic errors and suggested methods for verifying calculations. The conversation indicates a focus on clarifying the calculation process rather than reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of different calculator functionalities and potential misunderstandings regarding scientific notation, which may be affecting the calculations. The original poster's uncertainty with their calculator is noted as a factor in their confusion.

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Homework Statement


People who believe in astrology think the positions of the planets at the time of birth have a large effect on the personality and destiny of the baby. The only known interaction between a planet and the baby is the force of gravity.

Calculate the force of gravity (in Newtons) between a newborn baby (mass = 4.5 kg) and the planet Mars (mass = 6.4 X 1023 kg), when Mars is at its closest to the Earth (distance = 5.6 X 1010 m).


Calculate the force of gravity (in Newtons) between a newborn baby of mass 4.5 kg and the obstetrician of mass 100 kg, who is 0.5 m from the baby.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Fg= g ( 4.50 kg)(100.0 kg)/0.5m^2 =Fg= (6.67 E -11 N*m2/kg2)( 4.50 kg)(100.00 kg)/0.5m^2

I arrive at -1.32E4 but it gives me incorrect answer. I am completely lost with this problem.
 
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How did you get a negative result by multiplying positive numbers?

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problemswithp said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Fg= g ( 4.50 kg)(100.0 kg)/0.5m^2 =Fg= (6.67 E -11 N*m2/kg2)( 4.50 kg)(100.00 kg)/0.5m^2

I arrive at -1.32E4 but it gives me incorrect answer. I am completely lost with this problem.

Your method is fine. The physics of this problem is simple. Newton's law of gravitation tells you the gravitational force between any two masses given their separation. So, use that to compute the force. You're doing it right, in other words.

Since your physics is fine, the trouble must be with your math. If you got the wrong answer using the right equation, then you must have made an arithmetic error. I'm assuming that you just used a calculator, so short of punching in the wrong thing, I don't know what could have gone wrong. Maybe you could describe what you did to compute the answer...
 
I get a negative number by multiplying 6.67E-11 by the masses of the objects, I am not confortable with my calculator and I have probably gone wrong in the calculation, however I try repeatedly and any positive answers I get are incorrect...
 
problemswithp said:
I get a negative number by multiplying 6.67E-11 by the masses of the objects, I am not confortable with my calculator and I have probably gone wrong in the calculation, however I try repeatedly and any positive answers I get are incorrect...

Different calculators use different keys for the magnitudes (power of 10). In the calculator supplied for my Windows XP, it is the key "EXP". It can be also "EE". E-11 means 10-11. Calculate the value without 10-11 and then multiply the result with it.

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problemswithp said:
I get a negative number by multiplying 6.67E-11 by the masses of the objects, I am not confortable with my calculator and I have probably gone wrong in the calculation, however I try repeatedly and any positive answers I get are incorrect...
As a check, you can do the calculation without the "e-11" or any other exponents. Then apply the exponents to the value you calculate, to get a final answer.
 

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