Force Questions: Calculate Friction & Find Net Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving forces acting on a wooden crate moving on a horizontal surface. The problem includes calculating the force of friction, identifying vertical and horizontal forces, determining net force, and assessing acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between applied force and frictional force, particularly in the context of uniform velocity. Questions arise regarding the conditions under which the crate moves and the implications of those conditions on the calculations.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the problem's assumptions, particularly concerning the crate's motion. Some participants suggest that the problem cannot be fully resolved without additional information about the crate's velocity. Others indicate that if the crate is assumed to move at constant velocity, the frictional force can be equated to the applied force.

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Participants note that the problem lacks clarity on whether the crate is moving with constant velocity, which is essential for determining the frictional force accurately. There is also mention of the need for mass and acceleration data, which are not provided.

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Homework Statement



A force of 10 Newtons toward the right is exerted on a wooden crate initially moving to the right on a horizontal wooden floor. the crate weights 25 Newtons.

A) calculate the magnitude of the force of friction between the crate and the floor

B) name the vertical forces acting on the crate

C) name the horizontal forces acting on the crate

D) what is the magnitude of the net force acting on the crate

E) is the crate accelerating?

Homework Equations



A) u*Fn = ff (how can i find out u?)

b) weight is 25 Newtons so fg and fnormal is 25 Newtons

c) applied force is 10 Newtons

d) m*a = f net or applied force - ff = fn (mass and acceleration isn't given so i can't use it)

The Attempt at a Solution



im stuck with the equations can someone help =)
 
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Moving crate on the wooden floor will come to rest due to frictional force. If you want to keep it moving, you have to apply a force to overcome the frictional force. If the crate moves with uniform velocity, then the frictional force is equal to the applied force.
 
emm there is an apply force on the crate but how i know if it moves in uniform velocity?
 
can someone help me figure out the force of friction?
 
zelda1850 said:
can someone help me figure out the force of friction?
As rl.bhat noted, the friction force must equal the applied force if the crate is moving with constant velocity. The problem statement, however, is incomplete. Is there missing information? Without knowing that it moves with constant velocity, it cannot be solved without additional data.
 
what is missing?
 
zelda1850 said:
what is missing?

emm there is an apply force on the crate but how i know if it moves in uniform velocity?
you don't, unless the problem tells you that
 
hmm so can this problem be solved?
 
zelda1850 said:
hmm so can this problem be solved?
It can be solved only if you assume that the crate moves at constant velocity under the application of the 10 N applied force.
 
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so if it moves at constant velocity what can i do to solve the frictional force is there a equation?
 

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