Force required to accomplish acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 200kg motorcycle that accelerates uniformly from rest to a velocity of 60mph over a distance of 150m. The original poster seeks to determine the force required for this acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various formulas for accelerated motion, with suggestions to avoid using time or to find it first. The original poster attempts to calculate acceleration and force but questions the discrepancy between their result and a provided answer.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants questioning the validity of the methods used. Guidance has been offered regarding the appropriate formulas to use for constant acceleration.

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Participants note that the time calculated by the original poster may not accurately reflect the conditions of the motorcycle's acceleration, as it assumes constant speed rather than accounting for the acceleration phase.

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A 200kg motorcycle accelerates uniformly from rest and attains a velocity of 60mph over a distance of 150m. Determine the force required to accomplish this increase in speed.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
 
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Find your list of formulas for accelerated motion. Pick one that doesn't have time in it, since you don't know and don't wish to find time. Or use two of them that do have time, find the time first, then the acceleration.

List of formulas: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html#motcon
 
Thanks for your reply,

I have converted 60mph to 26.8m/s

Then,

Distance/Velocity = time
150/26.82 = 5.59s

Then

Acceleration = change in velocity/time

Acc = 26.82 / 5.59 = 4.79m/s^2

Then

Force = Mass x Acc

4.79 x 200 = 959N

However, i have been given the answer to be 486N
 
Delphi51 said:
Find your list of formulas for accelerated motion. Pick one that doesn't have time in it, since you don't know and don't wish to find time. Or use two of them that do have time, find the time first, then the acceleration.

List of formulas: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html#motcon
(I put that phrase in bold type.)

I have converted 60mph to 26.8m/s

Then,

Distance/Velocity = time
150/26.82 = 5.59s

Then

Acceleration = change in velocity/time

Acc = 26.82 / 5.59 = 4.79m/s^2

Then

Force = Mass x Acc

4.79 x 200 = 959N

However, i have been given the answer to be 486N
The time you got is the time it takes to go 150 meters at a speed of 26.82 m/s. The motorcycle is not traveling that fast until the very end of the 150 m.
 
"Distance/Velocity = time" is not an accelerated motion formula. It is a constant speed or zero acceleration formula. Look for one in the list of constant acceleration formulas. It must have an "a" in it for acceleration. You want to find "a" so you can then get the force with F = ma.
 
Thanks for your help!
 

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