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The discussion revolves around calculating the electrostatic force between two down quarks within a neutron, with the initial calculation yielding 25.6 N. Participants clarify that this force is significantly weaker than the strong nuclear force, which is compared to the weight of a 10-tonne truck. The confusion arises from the distinction between the repulsive electric force and the much stronger attractive nuclear force acting between quarks. One user expresses relief after understanding the differences in forces involved. The conversation highlights the complexities of quark interactions and the importance of distinguishing between different types of forces in particle physics.
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Forces between 2 down quarks...could someone please help me : )

Hi

I am going slightly insane with this question I have!

"A neutron contains two down quarks at a separation of approximately 10^−15 m. Calculate the strength in Newtons of the electrical force between two down quarks at a separation of 1.0 × 10^-15 m."

Now I have used F= k x (Q1 x Q2 / r (squared))

so...

F = 9 x 10^9 x ((1/3) x (-1.6 x 10^-19 C))(squared) / (1.0 x 10^-15 m )(squared)

and I get 25.6 N

Im pretty sure this is wrong, I am sure its much higher than that.

Could anybody tell me where I am going wrong please.

Thanks

Danny
 
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Danny523 said:
Hi

I am going slightly insane with this question I have!

"A neutron contains two down quarks at a separation of approximately 10^−15 m. Calculate the strength in Newtons of the electrical force between two down quarks at a separation of 1.0 × 10^-15 m."

Now I have used F= k x (Q1 x Q2 / r (squared))

so...

F = 9 x 10^9 x ((1/3) x (-1.6 x 10^-19 C))(squared) / (1.0 x 10^-15 m )(squared)

and I get 25.6 N

Im pretty sure this is wrong, I am sure its much higher than that.

Could anybody tell me where I am going wrong please.

Thanks

Danny
I agree with your answer. Why do you think it should be much higher? We are talking about something with an extremely small mass, so this force is really enormous.

AM
 


Thanks for your reply,

I am questioning my answer because the next question of my assignment says this...

"Book 7 page 121 states that the strong force between two quarks ‘is equivalent to the weight of a 10-tonne truck’. Calculate the weight of a 10-tonne truck and compare this weight with the electrostatic force between the two down quarks in a neutron"

Ive seen example questions which come out with an answer much much larger, but the examples didnt show working. I am really confused. I am pretty sure my figures are right, just not the answer. I am confuuuuused!
 


Danny523 said:
Thanks for your reply,

I am questioning my answer because the next question of my assignment says this...

"Book 7 page 121 states that the strong force between two quarks ‘is equivalent to the weight of a 10-tonne truck’. Calculate the weight of a 10-tonne truck and compare this weight with the electrostatic force between the two down quarks in a neutron"

Ive seen example questions which come out with an answer much much larger, but the examples didnt show working. I am really confused. I am pretty sure my figures are right, just not the answer. I am confuuuuused!
You were asked to find the electrostatic force between two quarks, not the nuclear force. The nuclear force between two quarks is much, much stronger. It is the nuclear force may be equivalent to the weight of a ten tonne truck.

Furthermore, since the two down quarks have the same charge (-1/3 e) the force between them is repulsive, so it works against the nuclear force between them (which, like gravity, is attractive).

AM
 


Ahhhhh ok, I think it has just become clearer to me now!

Thank you so much!

Danny
 


Hi Danny, how was the feedbackt from your tutor to the previous two questions of your assignment? I am actually in your same position, trying to understand how the repulsive electric force of two down quarks could be compared to the weight (gravitational force) of a 10 tonne truck. Does anybody have any suggestion to add? Thanks!
 


Orion78 said:
Hi Danny, how was the feedbackt from your tutor to the previous two questions of your assignment? I am actually in your same position, trying to understand how the repulsive electric force of two down quarks could be compared to the weight (gravitational force) of a 10 tonne truck. Does anybody have any suggestion to add? Thanks!

Hey, I don't think I still have the feedback from this assignment, it was quite a while ago, but I shall have a look and get back to you if I find it.
 
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