Forces on a Collar Applied by Cable and Rod

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The discussion revolves around determining the forces exerted on a collar by a cable and a rod when a specified force is applied. The problem involves a smooth rod and a collar that can slide along it, with a force of 900 lb acting on the collar.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the forces acting on the collar, including tension and compression forces. There are questions about the diagram and the exact wording of the problem statement. Some participants suggest drawing a free body diagram to visualize the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem and the forces involved. Some have expressed confusion about the setup and the forces acting on the collar, while others are trying to guide the conversation towards a clearer understanding of the problem.

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Participants mention having the answers but are looking for a deeper understanding of how to arrive at those answers for test preparation. There is a focus on the need for clearer explanations and the potential for misunderstanding the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Ok guys, me and a few buddy's are stuck on this one. We've got a smooth rod(BC)...and a collar(A) which is free to slide on it. I need to determine the Forces exerted on the collar by the cable, and by the rod...when a force F=900lb is applied to the collar. ***See pic.


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I'm not even sure where to start. I've only found the other angle to be 70 degrees.

I think there is a tension and a compression force. I think the tension force this time is on the pipe...while the compression is on the cable. This seems weird...or not how it usually is...but I think its right.


The Attempt at a Solution



I've got the actual answers...but would like to know how to get them...for test purposes.

The answers say T=700lb(I think in the -20, or down direction).

And...Fa = 1316lb (60 deg from the neg x side...upwards and to the left. ).

Thanks for the help and for explaining
Brad

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What do the other lines on your diagram represent? Could you state the question exactly as it's written please.
 
Question as stated...The collar A shown in fig3-7...is free to slide on the smooth rod BC. Determine the forces exerted on the collar by the cable and by the rod when the force F=900lb is applied to the collar.

In the area left of B...is like a rock structure(no meaning)...and same as that to the right of C...and the cable(which attaches to the "rock on the right side" at pt D...which I forgot.) The xy axis goes right through center of the collar...and so does the Force.
 
Is this understood now...or need more clearing up?
 
We really need some help on this one guys...there are 3 of us, who don't understand it. Like I said...we've got the answers...just need cleared up, how to actually do it...so we can pass the tests! Thanks, and sorry for pushing so hard to get an answer.
 
I have absolutely no idea what are you asking about... can you explain it more clearly...
What is your force? its direction? etc...
 
Okay... I guess I understand your question now...

There are 3 Forces act on the collar, which is F (act downward), tension form the cable
(-20 degree to the right, and the normal force from the rod.. since the rod is frictionless, it
must be perpendicular to the rod...

Do you know the vector notation? if yes, draw a free body diagram for this 3 force...
You have enough equation for all the unknown... make your hand dirty and solve for
them
 

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