Cable tension force from applied force

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of cable tension when a force is applied to the center of a cable fixed at both ends. Participants explore the relationship between applied force and tension in the cable, particularly in the context of elasticity and breaking points.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions whether the tension in the cable equals the applied force when a force is applied upwards at the center. Other participants discuss the forces acting on the cable and the conditions under which the cable would break.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the forces involved and the conditions for breaking tension. There is an ongoing exploration of how the tension vectors relate to the breaking point of the cable, with some guidance provided regarding the nature of the forces acting on the cable.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the cable's elasticity and the potential for weak points affecting where a break might occur, indicating that practical considerations are also part of the discussion.

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Hi, I am a bit confused about cables, because of multiple people telling me different things. The only times we've discussed cables/springs is when a force is applied parallel to the length of the cable.

So say you had a cable tied to 2 fixed ends ------------------ , (great diagram eh) and a force is applied upwards to the centre of the cable(it has some elasticity, as cables do). Is the tension in the cable = the force applied?

Thanks
 
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Hi J3Di! Welcome to PF! :smile:
J3Di said:
So say you had a cable tied to 2 fixed ends ------------------ , (great diagram eh) and a force is applied upwards to the centre of the cable(it has some elasticity, as cables do). Is the tension in the cable = the force applied?

No.

There are three forces acting on the centre of the cable: applied force upward, and two equal tension forces to left and right and slightly downward.

The three forces have to add to a net force of zero. :wink:
 
Thanks for the welcome, and the answer :smile:

So suppose this cable breaks when it reaches a certain tension force. This tension force will be reached by applying force the centre of the cable like before. (I get that the vertical components of the tension forces would add to equal the applied force.)

Would the cable break when each of the 2 tension vectors were equal to the given breaking point, or when their magnitudes totalled the given breaking point?
 
J3Di said:
Would the cable break when each of the 2 tension vectors were equal to the given breaking point, or when their magnitudes totalled the given breaking point?

each :smile:

(in practice of course, the cable would probably have a weak point on one side or the other, and so that side would break first! :wink:)
 

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