Forces with angles, Find the acceleration

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a 4.00 kg mass at rest on a horizontal frictionless surface. Two forces are specified: one of 6.50 N directed 55° West of South, and another of 7.00 N directed 25° North of West. The goal is to determine the resulting acceleration of the mass.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to the components of the forces, questioning the accuracy of the original poster's diagram and the resulting component values. There is a focus on the addition and subtraction of components based on their directions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants pointing out potential inaccuracies in the original poster's approach to calculating force components. There is an emphasis on the need for a more accurate diagram to clarify the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's diagram may not accurately represent the angles and directions of the forces, which could lead to incorrect calculations. The original poster acknowledges the inaccuracy of their diagram but defends their reasoning regarding the addition and subtraction of components.

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Homework Statement



Two forces act on a 4.00 kg mass which is sitting at rest on a horizontal frictionless surface. One force is 6.50 N directed 55° West of South, the other is 7.00 N directed 25° North of West. What acceleration does the mass receive?

Homework Equations



sin = o/h

cos = a/h

tan = o/a

a = F/m

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew forces (not accurately) on paint (attachment) to help me solve this question then did the following calculations:

Fapx1
sin = o/h sin35° = o/6.5N o = 3.7N

Fapx2
sin = o/h sin25° = o/7N o = 3N [N]

Fapx = Fapx1 + Fapx2
Fapx = 3.7N - 3N
Fapx = 0.7N

Fapy1
cos = a/h cos35° = a/6.5N a = 5.3N [W]

Fapy2
cos = a/h cos25° = a/7N a = 6.3N [W]

Fapy = Fapy1 + Fapy2
Fapy = 5.3N + 6.3N
Fapy = 11.6N

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tan = o/a tan = 11.6/0.7 tan = 86.5°

sin = o/h sin86.5° = 11.6/h h = 11.622N

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a = F/m a = 11.622N/4.00kg a = 2.9 m/s^2
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I was wondering if I did the question right. Did I get the right answer?
 

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plumeria28 said:

Homework Statement



Two forces act on a 4.00 kg mass which is sitting at rest on a horizontal frictionless surface. One force is 6.50 N directed 55° West of South, the other is 7.00 N directed 25° North of West. What acceleration does the mass receive?

Homework Equations



sin = o/h

cos = a/h

tan = o/a

a = F/m

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew forces (not accurately) on paint (attachment) to help me solve this question then did the following calculations:

Fapx1
sin = o/h sin35° = o/6.5N o = 3.7N

Fapx2
sin = o/h sin25° = o/7N o = 3N [N]

Fapx = Fapx1 + Fapx2
Fapx = 3.7N - 3N
Fapx = 0.7N

Fapy1
cos = a/h cos35° = a/6.5N a = 5.3N [W]

Fapy2
cos = a/h cos25° = a/7N a = 6.3N [W]

Fapy = Fapy1 + Fapy2
Fapy = 5.3N + 6.3N
Fapy = 11.6N

************************************************
tan = o/a tan = 11.6/0.7 tan = 86.5°

sin = o/h sin86.5° = 11.6/h h = 11.622N

************************************************

a = F/m a = 11.622N/4.00kg a = 2.9 m/s^2
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I was wondering if I did the question right. Did I get the right answer?

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



problems:

Firstly, you have not helped yourself with your diagram.

"Your" 55o angle is smaller than your 25o angle, so when you got two x-components of 3N and 3.7N you did not recognise that at least one of them was wrong, as the x-component of the 6.5N force is way less than the x component of the 7N force. The Y components don't llok good either. You seem to have added the y components and subtracted the x ??
 
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I said the diagrams are not accurate, I just drew them so it would be visually easier to do the calculations. And I added the y components because they were both going in the same direction (west) and subtracted the x components because they were going opposite directions (south and north).
 
plumeria28 said:
I said the diagrams are not accurate, I just drew them so it would be visually easier to do the calculations. And I added the y components because they were both going in the same direction (west) and subtracted the x components because they were going opposite directions (south and north).

But your diagram clearly shows the x components both going west, and the y-components going in opposite directions - North and South.

You need to draw a more accurate diagram and stick to the conventions you state on that diagram if you want to get anywhere with this problem.
 

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