Finding the applied force at an angle?

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The discussion centers on calculating the applied force required for a 2000 kg car to accelerate from 85 km/h to 100 km/h while driving up a 20° incline over 10 seconds. The participant initially calculated the force using the equations of motion and trigonometric functions, arriving at an incorrect acceleration. After further analysis, they determined that the correct applied force should be 7.5 kN, emphasizing the importance of considering net forces and proper axis alignment in calculations. A suggestion was made to draw a free body diagram to clarify the forces acting on the car.

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Homework Statement


A 2000 kg car is driving up a 20° grade at a speed of 85 km/h. What force must be applied to the car to accelerate it up to 100 km/h in 10s?

m= 2000 kg
θ= 20°
Vo= 85 km/hr = 23.6 m/s
Vf = 100 km/hr = 27.8 m/s
t = 10 s

Homework Equations


F = ma (Fx = max)
Fx= Fcosθ
Vox = Vo cosθ
Voy = Vo sinθ
Vx = Vox + axt
Vx= Vox +axt

The Attempt at a Solution


I found these using the cos or sin equations above:
Vox = 22.1 m/s
Voy = 8.07 m/s
Vx = 26.1 m/s
Vy = 9.51 m/s

Using the last equation, I found ax = 0.4 m/s2

Fx= 800 N

I then solved for F using the second equation by dividing Fx by cosθ, making F= 851 N. I think I did something wrong when I solved for a, and my guess is that I couldn't use 10s for that since it was the incline, when I used it for the x values. I'm stuck on how to fix it, or on how to solve the problem a different way. These are practice problems that I have the answers to, but no solutions, so I know that F=7.5 kN.

I tried working backward and got that a=3.75 m/s2 and ax=3.52 m/s2. Using F=ma and the cos, I got Fx = 7040 N, which gets me the right answer however I do it. This makes me fairly certain that I'm doing something wrong with getting the acceleration.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Bethany said:

Homework Statement


A 2000 kg car is driving up a 20° grade at a speed of 85 km/h. What force must be applied to the car to accelerate it up to 100 km/h in 10s?

m= 2000 kg
θ= 20°
Vo= 85 km/hr = 23.6 m/s
Vf = 100 km/hr = 27.8 m/s
t = 10 s

Homework Equations


F = ma (Fx = max)
Fx= Fcosθ
Vox = Vo cosθ
Voy = Vo sinθ
Vx = Vox + axt
Vx= Vox +axt

The Attempt at a Solution


I found these using the cos or sin equations above:
Vox = 22.1 m/s
Voy = 8.07 m/s
Vx = 26.1 m/s
Vy = 9.51 m/s

Using the last equation, I found ax = 0.4 m/s2

Fx= 800 N

I then solved for F using the second equation by dividing Fx by cosθ, making F= 851 N. I think I did something wrong when I solved for a, and my guess is that I couldn't use 10s for that since it was the incline, when I used it for the x values. I'm stuck on how to fix it, or on how to solve the problem a different way. These are practice problems that I have the answers to, but no solutions, so I know that F=7.5 kN.

I tried working backward and got that a=3.75 m/s2 and ax=3.52 m/s2. Using F=ma and the cos, I got Fx = 7040 N, which gets me the right answer however I do it. This makes me fairly certain that I'm doing something wrong with getting the acceleration.

AThanks in advance!
you are making the problem complex by not choosing the x-axis parallel to the incline and the y-axis perpendicular to the incline. You are also not noting that it is the net force that produces the acceleration , not just the applied force, regardless of how you choose your axes. Draw a free body diagram.
 

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