Formula for a geometric series with variable common ratio

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The discussion revolves around finding a general formula for the summation of a geometric series with a variable common ratio, specifically in the context of the summation $$\sum_{k=2}^{n}a^{n-k}$$ where \( a \) is a positive constant greater than 1. Participants explore different formulations and approaches to derive the correct expression for this series.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the summation and proposes a formula based on the geometric series summation formula, suggesting $$S_{n-2} = 1 * \left(\frac{1-a^{n-2}}{1-a}\right)$$ but notes discrepancies upon testing.
  • Another participant corrects the formula to $$S_{n-2} = 1 \cdot \frac{1-a^{n-1}}{1-a}$$ without providing further justification.
  • A third participant offers an alternative derivation of the summation, arriving at $$S_{n-2}=\frac{a^{n-1}-1}{a-1}$$ and provides a step-by-step multiplication approach to derive this result.
  • A later reply reiterates the original summation and suggests a different manipulation involving $$\sum_{k=2}^{n} a^{n-k} = a^{n} \sum_{k=2}^{n} \frac{1}{a^{k}}$$ as a potential first step in the derivation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct formula for the summation. Multiple competing views and formulations are presented, with some participants correcting or challenging earlier claims without resolving the discrepancies.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the derivations, particularly concerning the manipulation of terms and the application of the geometric series formula. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the series and its components.

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I have the following summation where a is a positive constant and can be > 1

$$
\sum_{k=2}^{n}a^{n-k}
$$

I am trying to find a general formula for this summation, which turns out to be a geometric series with a as the common ratio. I have worked out the following:

$$
\sum_{k=2}^{n}a^{n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n-2}a^{k}
$$$$
a^{0} + a^{1} + a^{2} + ... + a^{n-3} + a^{n-2}
$$Plugging this information into the geometric series summation formula where the common ratio = a, the first term is 1 and the number of terms is n-2, I get:

$$
S_{n-2} = 1 * (\frac{1-a^{n-2}}{1-a})
$$

After testing this formula few times, I found that it's always slightly off. I'm wondering where I went wrong when trying to determine the formula. Thanks.
 
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Hi ATroelstein! :)

The proper formula is: $S_{n-2} = 1 \cdot \frac {1-a^{n-1}}{1-a}$

See for instance here.
 
You want:

$\displaystyle S_{n-2}=\frac{a^{n-1}-1}{a-1}$

Consider:

$\displaystyle S_{n-2}=\sum_{k=0}^{n-2}a^k$

Multiply through by $a$:

$\displaystyle aS_{n-2}=\sum_{k=0}^{n-2}a^{k+1}=\sum_{k=0}^{n-2}a^k-a^0+a^{n-1}=S_{n-2}+a^{n-1}-1$

$\displaystyle aS_{n-2}-S_{n-2}=a^{n-1}-1$

$\displaystyle (a-1)S_{n-2}=a^{n-1}-1$

$\displaystyle S_{n-2}=\frac{a^{n-1}-1}{a-1}$
 
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ATroelstein said:
I have the following summation where a is a positive constant and can be > 1

$$
\sum_{k=2}^{n}a^{n-k}
$$

I am trying to find a general formula for this summation, which turns out to be a geometric series with a as the common ratio. I have worked out the following:

$$
\sum_{k=2}^{n}a^{n-k} = \sum_{k=0}^{n-2}a^{k}
$$$$
a^{0} + a^{1} + a^{2} + ... + a^{n-3} + a^{n-2}
$$Plugging this information into the geometric series summation formula where the common ratio = a, the first term is 1 and the number of terms is n-2, I get:

$$
S_{n-2} = 1 * (\frac{1-a^{n-2}}{1-a})
$$

After testing this formula few times, I found that it's always slightly off. I'm wondering where I went wrong when trying to determine the formula. Thanks.

May be that the best first step is to set... $\displaystyle \sum_{k=2}^{n} a^{n-k} = a^{n}\ \sum_{k=2}^{n} \frac{1}{a^{k}}$ (1)

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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