Fourier Transform Help ( f(x) = 1 )

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The discussion revolves around the Fourier transform of the function f(x) = 1, exploring the conditions for convergence and the properties of various functions involved in the transformation process. Participants are examining theoretical aspects, mathematical definitions, and specific examples related to Fourier transforms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their confusion regarding the Fourier transform of f(x) = 1 and the resulting integral, questioning its convergence.
  • Another participant notes that functions must belong to L^1 or L^2 spaces for proper Fourier transformation, providing examples of functions that meet these criteria.
  • There is a mention of the Dirac delta function as the Fourier transform of the constant function f = 1, though the context of this claim is not fully explored.
  • Participants discuss the definitions of the rectangle function (rect(x)) and the triangle function (tri(x)), with one participant providing their interpretations of these functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for functions to converge for Fourier transformation, but there is no consensus on the implications of the Dirac delta function or the specific properties of the functions discussed.

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Limitations include the need for more advanced theory regarding distributions for certain functions, and the discussion does not resolve the conditions under which the Fourier transform converges for f(x) = 1.

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Hello,

In the past couple of days I have been looking at how to transform a function f(t) into another function F(s) via the Laplace transform, and have practiced performing simple Laplace transformations such at f(t) = sin(at), sinat, cos(at), eatf(t) and so on.

I looked on Wikipedia at a formula for the Fourier transform and it's a bit confusing; I know there are several types, here is a formula I found;

f(\xi) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)e^{-2\pi ix\xi}dx for every real number ξ.

So if I say that f(x) = 1, then I end up with f(\xi) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-2\pi ix \xi}dx.

Integrating, we get

f(\xi) = -\frac{1}{2\pi ix \xi}e^{-2\pi ix \xi}.

However I'm stuck on how to evaluate this now, as I have to find the evaluation of the function at negative infinity and subtract that from the function evaluated at infinity (assuming ξ > 0, but when I do that I end up with an e^{\infty} term when evaluating the function at negative infinity. Does this simply mean that it does not converge? Can you show me an example of a function that does converge? I tried using the Fourier transform on sin(x) earlier today and I ended up with f(\xi) = 0...

Thanks.
 
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The simplest theory I've studied to treat properly Fourier transformation requires that the function you want to transform belongs to L^1 or L^2, where L^1 and L^2 are particular spaces where f\in L^1 \Leftrightarrow \int_a^b |f|<+\infty and f\in L^2 \Leftrightarrow \int_a^b |f|^2<+\infty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locally_integrable_function"

For example, you can integrate e^{-a|x|}\,\,\,a>0 since it belongs to L^1.
Other functions that can be integrated are:
rect(ax)=1 if ax is in [-1/2,1/2], 0 elsewhere
tri(x)=1-|x|

To integrate f=1 and f=trigonometric function such sine and cosine, you need a more wide theory, the theory of distribution (I think it is called this way).

However, if you need, \mathcal{F}(1)=\delta(x).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_delta_function"
 
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Hello,

Thanks for the reply. I think I understand what you're trying to say; that the definite integrals from a to b of the functions has to converge (not go to infinity)?

What are rect(x) and tri(x)?

I have lectures on Dirac's Delta function and I will look at these soon.

Thanks for your help.
 
I think that rect(x) is the rectangle function, that it s step function that is 1 for a given integral and zero elsewhere, I am guessing that tri(x) is a triangle function which I would imagine is a straight line from (-1,0) to (0,1) and another line from (0,1) to (1,0).

The Dirac delta function is the answer to your question though.
 
I wrote the definitions next to the functions. However, it is as hunt_mat says.
 
Wow, excellent guess on my part!

I actually saw the definitions after I posted.
 

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