Fraction of K.E. that turned into P.E.

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The problem involves an elastic collision between two balls of equal mass, where one ball is initially moving and the other is stationary. The inquiry focuses on determining the fraction of kinetic energy from the striking ball that converts into potential energy at the moment of maximum deformation during the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of conservation of momentum and energy, questioning the velocities of the balls at the moment of maximum deformation. There is exploration of how kinetic energy is transferred during the collision and the role of elastic deformation.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing thoughts on the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy in the context of elastic collisions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of kinetic energy acquired by the second ball, though there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of elastic collisions and the specific conditions of the problem, including the angle of impact and the nature of energy transfer. There are indications of differing interpretations regarding the doubling of kinetic energy in calculations.

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Homework Statement


A ball moving translationally collides elastically with another, stationary, ball of the same mass. At the moment of impact the angle between the straight line passing through the centres of the balls and the direction of the initial motion of the striking ball is equal to α = 45° Assuming the balls to be smooth, find the fraction of the kinetic energy of the striking ball that turned into potential energy at the moment of the maximum deformation.

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Conservation of momentum
Energy Conservation Principle

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand what will happen at the time of max deformation. I mean to say that what will be the velocities of the particle at that instant. I can apply conservation of momentum but that will lead me to nowhere. Also applying conservation of energy I can know what will be the final velocities but not the velocities at the time of max deformation. So what should I use?
 
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The line of thought is probably that all of the KE acquired by the second ball comes from elastic deformation during the interaction.
 
NascentOxygen said:
The line of thought is probably that all of the KE acquired by the second ball comes from elastic deformation during the interaction.

So how should I proceed? What equations will I have to apply?
 
Determine the KE acquired by ball #2. :smile:
 
NascentOxygen said:
Determine the KE acquired by ball #2. :smile:

Oh now I think how easy it was. Thanks for helping. :-p
 
A further thought...the question concerns "the kinetic energy of the striking ball that turned into potential" elastic energy, so I think you should find the K.E. of ball #2 and double it. Why double it? From Newton's 3rd Law (his action-reaction law), it follows that after the point of maximum elastic deformation, while one ball receives a certain energy in one direction, the other receives the same in the opposite direction. (It's an elastic collision, so energy is conserved.)
 
NascentOxygen said:
A further thought...the question concerns "the kinetic energy of the striking ball that turned into potential" elastic energy, so I think you should find the K.E. of ball #2 and double it. Why double it? From Newton's 3rd Law (his action-reaction law), it follows that after the point of maximum elastic deformation, while one ball receives a certain energy in one direction, the other receives the same in the opposite direction. (It's an elastic collision, so energy is conserved.)

But I got my answer without doubling it.
 

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