Frequency Comb (Photonics, Optics)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on frequency combs, particularly in the context of their properties, applications, and modulation techniques. Participants explore the nature of frequency combs, their potential in data transmission, and related technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe frequency combs as light sources with multiple frequencies that can transmit data simultaneously without interference.
  • A participant references a research project that successfully created a frequency comb using a multimode laser diode integrated into a silicon photonics chip, highlighting the engineering challenges involved.
  • Another participant draws a parallel to a historical optical technology used by Disney, suggesting a connection to the concept of frequency combs, though it is not a direct example.
  • Questions are raised about how the individual lines in a frequency comb can be modulated to carry different data streams, with references to techniques used in digital TV and mobile phones.
  • A participant proposes that a monochromatic source could be modulated by sub-carriers to create a frequency comb, suggesting this might simplify demodulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas about frequency combs and their applications, but there is no consensus on the specifics of modulation techniques or the relationship to other technologies.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific engineering assumptions and definitions of frequency combs, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes speculative ideas about modulation that are not fully resolved.

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A frequency comb is a special type of light that contains many colors lined up next to each other in an orderly pattern, kind of like a rainbow. Dozens of colors—or frequencies of light—shine brightly, while the gaps between them remain dark.

When you look at a frequency comb on a spectrogram, these bright frequencies appear as spikes, or teeth on a comb. This offers the tremendous opportunity of sending dozens of streams of data simultaneously. Because the different colors of light don't interfere with each other, each tooth acts as its own channel.
https://phys.org/news/2025-10-powerful-precise-multi-lasers-chip.html

All one needs is the right materials, junctions and optics.

A few years ago, researchers in Michal Lipson's lab noticed something remarkable. They were working on a project to improve LiDAR, a technology that uses lightwaves to measure distance. The lab was designing high-power chips that could produce brighter beams of light.

"As we sent more and more power through the chip, we noticed that it was creating what we call a frequency comb," says Andres Gil-Molina, a former postdoctoral researcher in Lipson's lab.

The breakthrough started with a simple question: What's the most powerful laser we can put on a chip?

The team chose a type called a multimode laser diode, which is used widely in applications like medical devices and laser cutting tools. These lasers can produce enormous amounts of light, but the beam is "messy," which makes it hard to use for precise applications.

Integrating such a laser into a silicon photonics chip, where the light pathways are just a few microns—even hundreds of nanometers—wide, required careful engineering.

Andres Gil-Molina et al, High-power electrically pumped microcombs, Nature Photonics (2025). DOI: 10.1038/s41566-025-01769-z
 
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While not a frequency comb, a YouTube video explained how Disney lost a critical optical splitter that enabled them to create some amazing effects (examples include Mary Poppins, where the characters dance in front of fanciful scenery with no blur) that current technology cannot achieve.

The individuals in the video managed to reconstruct the lost technology, which Disney used, featuring sodium lamps that emitted a specific frequency of light.



Essentially, it's related to a single-tooth comb.
 
How would the individual lines in the comb be modulated with different data streams? As you may know, the technique is used for digital TV and mobile phones. By splitting a high speed data stream into many parallel ones, the system becomes much more robust and insensitive to echo distortion.

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tech99 said:
How would the individual lines in the comb be modulated with different data streams? As you may know, the technique is used for digital TV and mobile phones. By splitting a high speed data stream into many parallel ones, the system becomes much more robust and insensitive to echo distortion.

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I imagine a monochromatic source is modulated by a number of sub-carriers, each with its own data stream. It wouldn't be hard to make the subcarrier frequencies harmonically related to produce a comb. That could make demodulation easier, too.
 

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