Frequency to wavelength question (thermal Doppler broadening)

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between frequency and wavelength, particularly in the context of thermal Doppler broadening. Participants are examining the equations that describe these relationships and their implications for small variations in frequency and wavelength.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are exploring the equivalence of two equations related to frequency and wavelength. Questions arise regarding the implications of the relationship \(\nu = c/\lambda\) and how it affects small variations in these quantities. Some participants attempt to derive relationships involving \(\Delta\omega\) and \(\Delta\lambda\), while others provide alternative derivations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and derivations that clarify the relationships between frequency and wavelength. Some participants express understanding of the concepts presented, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. However, there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations being discussed.

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Participants are focused on the mathematical relationships and variations of frequency and wavelength, with an emphasis on the implications of these variations in the context of thermal Doppler broadening. The discussion does not resolve all questions, as assumptions and interpretations are still being explored.

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I don't understand how to go from one equation to the other
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I want to understand how the two equations in the picture are the same. I am confused because \nu=c/\lambda. This would mean that the term on the right side of the equation in the square root, call it x, would then become x^-1. The resulting equation being \Delta\lambda = \lambda x^-1. But somehow this is not the case?
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What you are saying is only true for the relationship between frequency and wavelength themselves - not their small variation.

From ##\omega \propto 1/\lambda## follows that ##\Delta\omega \propto \Delta\lambda /\lambda^2 \propto \Delta\lambda (\omega/\lambda)##.
 
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What you are saying is only true for the relationship between frequency and wavelength themselves - not their small variation.

From ##\omega \propto 1/\lambda## follows that ##\Delta\omega \propto \Delta\lambda /\lambda^2 \propto \Delta\lambda (\omega/\lambda)##.
Thank you. This tracks for me.
 
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A somewhat cleaner derivation:

The product ##\omega\lambda## is constant so ##0=\Delta(\omega\lambda) \simeq \omega \Delta\lambda + \lambda\Delta\omega##. This directly leads to ##\Delta\lambda/\lambda \simeq - \Delta\omega/\omega##.
 
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