Friction factor on very very low reynolds number

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This discussion focuses on the behavior of castor oil in a 12 mm acrylic pipe at very low Reynolds numbers, specifically around 0.35. The user inquires about the normalcy of achieving a friction factor greater than 1, calculated using the formula f = 64/Re, resulting in values between 140-150. Responses confirm that such conditions are typical for viscous fluids like motor oils, especially at low flow velocities and ambient temperatures around 30°C. The Darcy friction factor remains valid even when exceeding 1, particularly in laminar flow scenarios.

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hai all,
I'm now doing a research about castor oil. I've a got a few a confusing problems..

1. to flow castor oil in a 12 mm acrylic pipe i use a reservoir 1 metres from the outlet. Because castor oil is very thick (dyn visc. = 0.5 Pa-m), the velocity of the flow is very low just about 0.02 m/s, therefore the reynolds number i got is very small just about 0.35. do u guys think it's normal? coz' I've never found any case that has a reynolds number below 1 in an internal flow.

2. related to the first question, i got the friction factor for laminar flow using the eg f=64/Re, so i got about 140-150. do u guys think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1.

that's my confusing problem, btw i don't want to use pump, because pump will break the oil's molecule.

please help me here. =)

Thanks.
 
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Very low Reynolds numbers are encountered with motor oils. I have an example of oil leakage past a cylinder head/bore in which Re = 0.0375.

The formula I have for volumetric flow rate is

Q = \frac{\pi\,\Delta{p}D^4}{128\,\mu\,L}, where D is pipe/tube diameter and L is pipe/tube length, p is pressure, and \mu is dynamic or absolute viscosity.

Q = V A where V is mean fluid velocity.

The f is probably correct for the Re, but I am not familiar with the application at such low Re.

What is the temperature of application?
 
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so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg celsius
Thanks btw
 
han168 said:
so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg celsius
Thanks btw

The friction factor for laminar flows can be derived analytically and has a value of 64/Re. There's no further problem if it is larger than one.
 
han168 said:
so u think it's normal to have a friction factor > 1 with such Reynolds number?
the temperatur is ambient about 30 deg celsius
Thanks btw
It would appear to be normal for oils, e.g. motor oil in a warm engine. At some point, the oil temperature increases to around 100°C or slightly higher, so viscosity will vary considerably. The dimensions used in lubrication are generally very small (parallel surfaces).

As Clausius2 mentioned it should not be a problem. I believe that f = 64/Re is derived from the formula I posted by virtue of the definition of the Darcy friction factor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcy_Friction_factor

See also - http://web.umr.edu/~wlf/MW/HagPoi.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagen-Poiseuille_law
 
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thank you very much for the answers..i really really appreciates it. =)
 
continuing my research about oil for lubricants, could you guys tell me where can i find the rheology overview of oil (viscosity change under shear) chart?
i want to compare it with castor oil..
thanks
 

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