From a given basis, express a polynomial

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The discussion revolves around expressing a polynomial in terms of a given basis consisting of the functions {x² + x, x + 1, 2}. Participants are exploring the implications of this task within the context of linear algebra and polynomial functions.

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  • Some participants question the nature of the problem, particularly whether it is appropriate to express a polynomial as a linear combination of the given basis functions. There is confusion regarding the polynomial's degree and the format in which it should be presented.

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Participants are actively questioning the original problem statement and its validity. Some have suggested that the polynomial should be of degree at most 2 and expressed as a linear combination of the basis functions. Others are seeking clarification from the original poster regarding the complete problem statement.

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There is uncertainty about the professor's intent and whether the question aligns with standard practices in linear algebra. Participants are discussing the relationship between polynomial functions and vector spaces, noting that the space of polynomials can be treated similarly to a vector space.

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Homework Statement


Express a polynomial in terms of the basis vectors.
{x2 + x, x + 1, 2}

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
I think the answer is:
(x2+x)^2 + (x + 1) + 2 = 0
simplified to become:
x4 + 2x3 + x2 + x + 3 = 0
 
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What polynomial do you have to express in that basis? Is this a linear algebra question? In a vector space, there is no such thing as a product of two polynomials, so if this is a linear algebra question this doesn't make sense.
 
Randell Julius said:

Homework Statement


Express a polynomial in terms of the basis vectors.
{x2 + x, x + 1, 2}

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
I think the answer is:
(x2+x)^2 + (x + 1) + 2 = 0
simplified to become:
x4 + 2x3 + x2 + x + 3 = 0
This answer makes no sense for a couple of reasons.
1. Your polynomial will necessarily be of degree at most 2.
2. The answer should be a polynomial, not an equation in which the polynomial equals zero.

Whatever your polynomial is (which you didn't include), it should be written as a linear combination of your basis functions. By linear combination, I mean a sum of constant multiples of those basis functions ##x^2 + x, x + 1,## and ##2##.

Please include the full statement of the problem you're working on.
 
Mark44 said:
This answer makes no sense for a couple of reasons.
1. Your polynomial will necessarily be of degree at most 2.
2. The answer should be a polynomial, not an equation in which the polynomial equals zero.

Whatever your polynomial is (which you didn't include), it should be written as a linear combination of your basis functions. By linear combination, I mean a sum of constant multiples of those basis functions ##x^2 + x, x + 1,## and ##2##.

Please include the full statement of the problem you're working on.
This is what I initially thought it would be, but this is all that my professor gave me. I will ask him.

Thank you.
 
Perhaps he means "Express a quadratic polynomial ##ax^2 + bx + c## in terms of the basis functions ##x^2 + x, x + 1,## and ##2##."
 
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Randell Julius said:
Express a polynomial in terms of the basis vectors.
{x2 + x, x + 1, 2}
What do vectors have to do with this at all?
{x2 + x, x + 1, 2}

This is not in vector format if anything it's what mark said "a quadratic polynomial" (which means the function has a degree of two)
I am absolutely positive a professor would not give out a question like that.
 
Physics345 said:
What do vectors have to do with this at all?
The functions ##x^2 + x, x + 1##, and ##2## are a basis for ##P_2(x)##, the space of functions of degree 2 or less. In other words, the set of all polynomials of the form ##ax^2 + bx + c##, with a, b, and c being real numbers. A function space is almost identical to a vector space; in this case ##P_2(x)## is isomorphic (same "shape") as ##\mathbb R^3## -- each polynomial is paired to a specific vector in ##\mathbb R^3## and vice versa. The operation of addition of polynomials corresponds to addition of vectors, and scalar multiplication of a polynomial corresponds to scalar multiplication of vectors.
 
Physics345 said:
What do vectors have to do with this at all?
{x2 + x, x + 1, 2}

This is not in vector format if anything it's what mark said "a quadratic polynomial" (which means the function has a degree of two)
I am absolutely positive a professor would not give out a question like that.
The correspondence
$$a + b x +c x^2 \leftrightarrow (a,b,c)$$
turns the space of second-degree polynomials into a three-dimensional vector space. The sum of two polynomials turns into the sum of two vectors; the product of a polynomial and a number turns into the product of a vector and a number. The space of polynomials IS a vector space.
 

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