High School Functions f: ℝ --> ℝ

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The discussion centers on the existence of functions f: ℝ → ℝ that are open maps, non-continuous, and operate under the usual topology for both domain and codomain. An example is presented where f is defined using a binary sequence, demonstrating that the image of any open interval is ℝ due to Riemann's rearrangement theorem, thus confirming the function is open. The conversation also highlights the need to show that there are open sets in the codomain whose preimages in the domain are not open, emphasizing the function's non-continuity. The participants explore the relationship between continuity and the topological definition, ultimately concluding that the epsilon-delta approach aligns with topological terms. The discussion illustrates the complexity of defining such functions while adhering to the specified conditions.
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looking for noncontinuous open maps
Do functions exist f: R --> R such that

1) f is an open map

2) f is noncontinuous, and

3) Both domain AND codomain are endowed with the usual topology?

I'm aware of examples that satisfy 1) and 2) but which use the discreet topology on the codomain.
 
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Identify ##x\in\mathbb R## with a binary sequence ##x_i, i\in\mathbb N, x_i\in \{0,1\}## and define
<br /> f(x) = \sum _{i=1}^\infty \frac{(-1)^{x_i}}{i}<br />
if the series converges. Otherwise, define ##f(x)=0##. The image of any open interval is ##\mathbb R## because of Riemann's rearrangement theorem, hence the map is open.
 
Preimages of open intervals are disjoint unions of singletons?
 
Edit above: "are disjoint unions of singletons?" --> "include and/or consist solely of isolated points?"
 
That doesn't sound right to me, I think any open interval has every real number infinitely many times in its image, since you can flip one bit and then flip infinitely many bits further down the sequence to offset it.

Also this example is super cool.
 
But to meet 2) you also have to show that there are open sets in the codomain whose preimages in the domain aren't open. Hence the question relating to preimages containing isolated points.
 
It's not continuous at any point. As I mentioned, the image of any open interval is ##\mathbb R##. As a consequence, we take ##\varepsilon =1##, for example, and for any ##a\in\mathbb R## and ##\delta >0##, we find an ##x\in (a-\delta,a+\delta)## such that ##|f(x)-f(a)| \geqslant 1##.

##f## is continuous at a point ##a## iff
<br /> (\forall\varepsilon &gt;0)(\exists\delta &gt; 0)(\forall x\in\mathbb R)(|x-a|&lt;\delta \Rightarrow |f(x)-f(a)|&lt;\varepsilon)<br />
 
I want to know if it can be shown using the topological definition of continuity instead of the beta epsilon way.
 
Reformulate in topological terms, then: ##\mathbb R = f((a-\delta,a+\delta)) \not\subseteq (f(a)-1, f(a)+1)##. There is no difference between this and epsilon delta language :oops:
 

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