Fundamental reason behind Aufbau principle

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The discussion revolves around the fundamental reasoning behind the Aufbau principle, which describes how electrons fill atomic orbitals starting from the lowest energy levels. Participants explore the implications of this principle in the context of atomic structure and energy states, touching on both theoretical and observational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the Aufbau principle is related to the minimization of potential energy, as electrons occupy states closest to the nucleus first due to the attractive force between electrons and protons.
  • One participant suggests that once the lowest energy states are filled, subsequent electrons must occupy higher energy levels, which is influenced by the Pauli Exclusion Principle.
  • Another participant questions whether there is a broader physical law that governs systems tending to reach a state of minimum potential energy.
  • It is noted that this principle can be observed in various physical contexts, including classical physics and thermodynamics, where systems tend to distribute energy evenly among available states.
  • One participant mentions that the trend of minimizing energy states is also reflected in quantum mechanics and entropy considerations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the fundamental nature of the explanations for the Aufbau principle, with some focusing on potential energy and others on broader physical laws. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a singular, fundamental explanation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on what constitutes the most fundamental explanation for the Aufbau principle and the dependence on various interpretations of energy minimization across different physical theories.

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This principle states that the electron starts filling from the lowest energy up. Why?
 
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The state where the electron is closest to the proton has the minimum potential energy since the two particles attract each other. Once these states are occupied (Pauli Exclusion Principle) the next electron has to "settle" for a position further away from the positive charge as the position closer to the proton is already occupied by an electron. And so on.

This is also the reason why electrons in the ground state of an atom that are promoted to higher energy levels by, for example, a photon typically don't last there for long (has short lifetimes). The reason is that if there is an "open state" of lower energy available where an electron can move closer to the nucleus it will fill that state at its earliest opportunity.

This is a simplistic view to be sure (so I don't know if it qualifies as being the most "fundamental" explanation), but it fits in with a lot of chemical and physical observations.
 
Is there a physical law such as systems tend to reach a state of minimum potential energy or something?
 
It's just an observable fact. There are different ways to see these sorts of phenomenon in classical physics with gravity and the electrical force, in thermodynamics,statistical mechanics with energy distribution, and these ideas carried over into quantum mechanics as well. For instance, you can also see this trend with entropy, as entropy tends to spread out energy as evenly as possible between all the available energy states. Therefore if you have one energy state higher than the energy state of nearby objects it will tend to spontanteously lose energy until its energy state matches that of its surroundings. That's just one way of seeing this motif (the electron energy levels is another).
 

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