Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics by Frederick Reif

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The discussion revolves around the book "Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics" by Frederick Reif, focusing on its content, organization, and effectiveness as a learning resource for statistical mechanics and kinetic theory. Participants share their personal experiences and opinions regarding the book's clarity, structure, and pedagogical value.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants appreciate the book for its thoroughness and depth, noting that it covers essential topics in statistical mechanics.
  • Others express concerns about the organization of the material, mentioning that references to earlier formulas can be difficult to locate, which may hinder understanding.
  • A participant recalls finding the book overly wordy and felt it took too long to reach key points, impacting their learning experience.
  • Another participant shares a positive experience of self-teaching from the book, despite noting the need for extensive note-taking and the challenge of finding information easily.
  • Some participants suggest that alternative texts, such as Schroeder's book, may offer clearer and more concise explanations, especially for beginners in statistical mechanics.
  • There is a recognition that while the book has its merits, it may not be the best choice for all learners, particularly those new to the subject.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express mixed opinions about the book, with some appreciating its depth and others criticizing its organization and clarity. No consensus is reached regarding its overall effectiveness as a learning tool.

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Some participants highlight limitations in the book's organization and accessibility, noting that it may not be suitable for first-time learners without additional resources or guidance.

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Table of Contents:

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1. Introduction to Statistical Methods
Random Walk and Binomial Distribution / General Discussion of the Random Walk

2. Statistical Description of Systems of Particles
Statistical Formulation of the Mechanical Problem / Interaction between Macroscopic Systems

3. Statistical Thermodynamics
Irreversibility and the Attainment of Equilibrium / Thermal Interaction between Macroscopic Systems / General Interaction between Macroscopic Systems / Summary of Fundamental Results

4. Macroscopic Parameters and Their Measurement

5. Simple Applications of Macroscopic Thermodynamics
Properties of Ideal Gases / General Relations for a Homogeneous Substance / Free Expansion and Throttling Processes / Heat Engines and Refrigerators

6. Basic Methods and Results of Statistical Mechanics
Ensembles Representative of Situations of Physical Interest / Approximation Methods / Generalizations and Alternative Approaches

7. Simple Applications of Statistical Mechanics
General Method of Approach / Ideal Monatomic Gas / The Equipartition Theorem / Paramagnetism / Kinetic Theory of Dilute Gases in Equilibrium

8. Equilibrium between Phases or Chemical Species
General Equilibrium Conditions / Equilibrium between Phases / Systems with Several Components; Chemical Equilibrium

9. Quantum Statistics of Ideal Gases
Maxwell-Boltzmann, Bose-Einstein, and Fermi-Dirac Statistics / Ideal Gas in the Classical Limit / Black-Body Radiation / Conduction Electrons in Metals

10. Systems of Interacting Particles
Solids / Nonideal Classical Gas / Ferromagnetism

11. Magnetism and Low Temperatures

12. Elementary Kinetic Theory of Transport Processes

13. Transport Theory Using the Relaxation Time Approximation

14. Near-Exact Formulation of Transport Theory

15. Irreversible Processes and Fluctuations
Transition Probabilities and Master Equation / Simple Discussion of Brownian Motion / Detailed Analysis of Brownian Motion / Calculation of Probability Distributions / Fourier Analysis of Random Functions / General Discussion of Irreversible Processes

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If you know this book, you should have the basics of Stat Mech down, It doesn't do anything with regards to modern techniques (Field Theory), but still a very well written book.
 
Great book. I would have strongly recommended this except that I felt there were some organizational issues I had with the book. Mainly, I remember a number of times where he would put a reference to a formula three chapters back, and after a minute of searching for it, the equation would turn out to be something like E_{tot}=E_1+E_2. Great book, but I'd love a slightly better edited copy. (Yes, I'm being sort of nitpicky, but Stat Mech is a rough enough subject)
 
I have to admit, I didn't care for this book when I took stat mech as an undergrad. I remember trying to read it, and it seemed like Reif took a long time to get to the point.
 
vela said:
I have to admit, I didn't care for this book when I took stat mech as an undergrad. I remember trying to read it, and it seemed like Reif took a long time to get to the point.
This is how I feel book. It's a 'fine' book, but not exceptional.
 
I self-taught myself classical stat mech and some kinetic theory from this book. The fact that it was so wordy was fine, since I didn't have a professor to guide me and I learned a lot from the text. I did have to take notes, and ended up making a several page list of important definitions and equations to help me wade through the later chapters. This was necessary since the book isn't made to easily find things in, as noted by other reviewers. Many of the problems are interesting, and I had fun working them out. Some of the early chapters probably had too few problems, though. Most were do-able for me, but a few left me stumped. A number of years later I ran across the book by Schroeder, which I think would have been better for the basic stat mech (but covers no kinetic theory); it seems to make things clear and concise and is much easier to read.

Overall I enjoyed the book, but if this is your first exposure to stat mech I recommend Schroeder over Reif (Schroeder is cheaper, too!). Others may know of even easier books.

jason
 

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