Galaxy Splitting: Has it Ever Occurred?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether a single galaxy can split into two separate galaxies, exploring both theoretical scenarios and observational evidence. Participants consider various factors, including gravitational influences from other galaxies and internal events within a galaxy that could lead to such a split.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a galaxy could theoretically split due to gravitational interactions with larger galaxies, but this would likely result in the original galaxy being consumed rather than forming a new one.
  • Others suggest that internal events, such as starbursts leading to large-scale gas outflows, might create conditions for a split, although this has not been observed or modeled extensively.
  • A participant raises the idea that uneven mass distribution within a galaxy could lead to the formation of multiple centers of gravity, potentially allowing for a split under certain conditions, though this remains speculative.
  • Another viewpoint discusses the effects of ram-pressure stripping and tidal interactions, which can remove gas from galaxies without leading to their coalescence.
  • There is uncertainty about how to define "splitting," with some suggesting a range from a perfect division to a more ambiguous separation of material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a galaxy can split into two distinct galaxies. Multiple competing views are presented, with some focusing on external gravitational influences and others on internal processes.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in defining what constitutes a "split" and the conditions necessary for such an event to occur, as well as the lack of observational evidence for the proposed scenarios.

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A question.

Has there ever been an instance where a single galaxy split into two separate gallaxies or a recorded view where that would seem to be the case.

Thank you.

Sunblock
 
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Randomly? No.
Because of other galaxy's gravity?
Yes. If the Milky way was put in the middle of two lager galaxies (but they are the same size) The galaxy would split, but not become a new galaxy, it would be eaten up. So the answer is no.
 
Thank you Arian.

It was in mind without interference from other galaxies. I was going to include (in my question) about the possibility of an event within the galaxy that was powerful enough to cause a split but I didn't want to muddle up the basic question.

Sunblock
 
sunblock said:
It was in mind without interference from other galaxies. I was going to include (in my question) about the possibility of an event within the galaxy that was powerful enough to cause a split but I didn't want to muddle up the basic question.

The only thing that I can think of that might be able to do this is a starburst. Galaxies with a lot of star formation are observed to have large-scale outlfows of gas (presumably driven by supernovae). I suppose it's possible that some of the gas in these outflows could later collapse into a small galaxy, but I've never heard of anyone observing or modelling it.
 
Thank you SpaceTiger.

None of my research turned up anything even insignificant. At the size of some of these galaxies I'm always impressed at the far ranging effects of gravity that hold them together. If we could just figure out what gravity means.

Sunblock
 
No w that you mention it, Sunblock, it does seem posible, and even likely. Given the uneven distribution of matter in most gallaxies (i.e. the spiral arms in a spiral gallaxy), one would expect that the mass could be focussed aound not one but two centers of gravity, and these two could be at any locations, any distance from one another within the gallaxy. If enough gallaxies have this configuration, one could expect to find at least a few that rotated with enough angular momentum that these two centers of gravity were flung apart, breaking the entire gallaxy into two smaller ones.

But AFAIK, it's never been observed. Unless that's what we're seeing here;

http://jeff.medkeff.com/astro/observing/reports/hickson92.html
 
Thank you LURCH.

Logical and quite possible.

I've always wondered if the spirals are locked in the gravity attraction one body to the next through the arms (all the way back to the core influence) or by the central massive gravity accumulation. Has the inertia overcome the core attraction so to speak. I use hurricanes as a high speed simblance of galaxy behavior and I've never heard of one splitting into two.

Very interesting reference. Thank you

Sunblock
 
It depends on how you define "splitting in two". We observe galaxies having massive amounts of gas stripped from them by the ram-pressure force of the intra-cluster medium as they fall into a galaxy cluster. Other effects such as tidal interactions are also known to strip matter from galaxies without the interacting galaxies ever coalescing.
 
I don't think I would want to try and define it. Anywhere from a perfect 50-50 split to a full dusting. Anything (other than another galaxy) that can overcome the mass(read density) distance effect of gravity that would separate a sizeable amount of the galaxy from the main trunk would do I suppose. Whatever the condition of the separated material as long as it stayed fully separated.
 
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