Gauge invariance of superpotential

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The discussion revolves around the gauge invariance of the superpotential in supersymmetric theories, particularly in the context of chiral superfields and their behavior under supergauge transformations. Participants explore theoretical implications, examples from literature, and specific models, including the Wess-Zumino model and references to Srednicki's work.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the superpotential, derived from left chiral superfields, does not appear to be supergauge invariant under transformations, questioning their understanding.
  • Another participant clarifies that while chiral superfields change under supergauge transformations, they remain chiral superfields, suggesting that the superpotential must be constructed to ensure gauge invariance.
  • A participant acknowledges a previous misunderstanding regarding the nature of chiral superfields under transformations and presents a specific example from Srednicki's work, arguing that the resulting terms in the superpotential indicate a lack of invariance.
  • It is noted that the superpotential should be a gauge-invariant product of fields, similar to requirements in non-supersymmetric theories, with a reference to gauge-invariant constructions in the supersymmetric Standard Model.
  • Concerns are raised about the superpotential in the Wess-Zumino model, with one participant expressing confusion over its apparent lack of gauge invariance, while another asserts that the model does not possess gauge symmetry.
  • Discussion includes references to specific equations and components from Srednicki's text, highlighting the complexity of the topic and the nuances involved in gauge invariance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the gauge invariance of the superpotential, with some arguing it must be invariant while others point out specific instances where it appears not to be. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these observations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and models from Srednicki's work, indicating that their arguments depend on these definitions and examples. There is also mention of potential limitations in understanding the gauge symmetry in the Wess-Zumino model.

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The superpotential is basically a product of left chiral superfields, taking the \theta \theta component.

However, under a supergauge transformation, the left chiral superfields change, and the superpotential does not seem to be supergauge invariant.

In fact, under supergauge transformation, the left chiral superfield no longer seems to be a left chiral superfield.

Am I doing something wrong?
 
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A chiral superfield that is in a nontrivial rep of the gauge group will change under a supergauge transformation, but it remains a chiral superfield. The superpotential must be constructed to be supergauge invariant.

You'll need to provide more details if you don't agree.
 
I agree that under a supergauge transformation, a chiral superfield remains a chiral superfield - I messed up on that one.

But take as a superpotential the \theta \theta component of a chiral superfield {in Srednicki's book, equation (95.29), whose component would be F(x)}. A generic supergauge transformation is the exponential of i times another generic chiral superfield {equation 95.51 of Srednicki). Clearly the \theta \theta term of the new field will be different. In the examples of Srednicki, for instance, the B(x) of 95.51 will multiply the F(x) of 95.29 to get a new \theta \theta term. Therefore the Lagrangian is not invariant under supergauge transformation.
 
The superpotential must be a gauge invariant product of fields, just like, in non-supersymmetric theories, the scalar potential and Yukawa couplings must be gauge invariant. Terms that are not gauge invariant are not allowed. Take a look at the next section of Srednicki, where he writes down the gauge-invariant superpotential for the supersymmetric version of the Standard Model.
 
There was a question on the high-energy physics board about a calculation in the Wess-Zumino model, which Srednicki defines as eqn. (95.47). It just bothered me that the super-potential in the Wess-Zumino model doesn't look super-gauge invariant, but I'm just starting the next chapter on the supersymmetric Standard Model so maybe they modify it.

But chapter 95 was good as I at least got to see the super-partner of the electron (the A field) and the superpartner of the photon (the \lambda field), although Srednicki strangely never uses the term super-partner but instead calls the \lambda field the gaugino.
 
RedX said:
But chapter 95 was good as I at least got to see the super-partner of the electron (the A field) and the superpartner of the photon (the \lambda field), although Srednicki strangely never uses the term super-partner but instead calls the \lambda field the gaugino.

That it is also standard, also the photon does not really have a superpartner in that sense, you have to look to the superpartners of the SU(2)_L x U(1)_Y gauge group, they are then called Winos and Binos, which you, as in the EW SM, combine to get the corresponding Zino and Photino.
 
RedX said:
There was a question on the high-energy physics board about a calculation in the Wess-Zumino model, which Srednicki defines as eqn. (95.47). It just bothered me that the super-potential in the Wess-Zumino model doesn't look super-gauge invariant
It's not! The Wess-Zumino model does not have a gauge symmetry, or even a global symmetry that could be gauged.
 

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