Gauss' divergence theorem and thermoelectricity contradiction

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The discussion centers on the application of Gauss' divergence theorem in the context of thermoelectricity, specifically involving a material with a temperature-independent Seebeck coefficient, thermal conductivity, and electrochemical potential. The energy flux equation, represented as ##\vec J_U = (ST+\mu)\vec J - \kappa \nabla T##, is analyzed under steady-state conditions, leading to a contradiction where the energy flux entering and leaving the material does not match. The user initially believes they have resolved the issue by recognizing that differing Peltier heats and thermal gradients adjust to maintain a constant energy flux, but later expresses confusion regarding the constancy of ##\vec J_U## throughout the material.

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I get a nonsensical result. I am unable to understand where I go wrong.
Let's consider a material with a temperature independent Seebeck coefficient, thermal conductivity and electrochemical potential to keep things simple. Let's assume that this material is sandwiched between 2 other materials with vanishing Seebeck coefficients (this simplifies things further). Now both a thermal gradient and electrical currents are passing through this material.
Using thermodynamics relations, one has that the energy flux is worth ##\vec J_U = (ST+\mu)\vec J - \kappa \nabla T##, where ##\vec J## is the electric current, ##\kappa## is the thermal conductivity, and so on.
In steady state, ##\nabla \cdot \vec J_U=0##, which physically mean that the energy flux entering the material must equal the one that leaves it, i.e. there is no accumulation of energy. Great, when I compute this quantity I get a heat equation containing a Joule term, a Thomson term (only in the case where ##S## depends on temperature, which is fine) and a Fourier conduction term, all is fine.
However, this should imply that the energy flux entering a side must equal to the one that leaves at the other side. But when I compute that quantity, I get that it differs, which is impossible.

Indeed, even though the terms ##\mu \vec J## and ##\kappa \nabla T## are the same at the extremities of the material, the Peltier heat ##ST\vec J## differs, solely because the absolute temperature differs, according to which ends we are calculating. This is not consistent with ##\nabla \cdot \vec J_U=0##, but I do not see where I go wrong.
 
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Ok I think I have solved the mystery. So, even though the Peltier heats are going to be different, the magnitude of the thermal gradients are also going to be different. In fact, this thermal gradient will adjust so as to make ##\vec J_U## constant through the material. Problem solved.

Edit: I don't think it's that easy at all, now. ##\vec J_U## needs not be constant through the material/chunk of material. I am quite confused.
 
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