Gauss' Law with Superposition Principle

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss' Law and the Superposition Principle to determine the electric field in a scenario involving a long charged cylinder with a spherical cavity removed from it. The participants are exploring the implications of charge distribution and the resulting electric field in the cavity region.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Gaussian surfaces to analyze the electric field, questioning the validity of assuming zero electric field in the cavity due to zero enclosed charge. There is mention of using superposition by considering the effects of a complete cylinder and an oppositely charged sphere.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing insights into the reasoning behind the application of Gauss' Law and the implications of charge distribution. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding the electric field within the cavity, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are self-studying and referencing textbook material, indicating a potential lack of external guidance. The problem involves understanding the behavior of electric fields in regions with non-uniform charge distributions.

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Homework Statement


A very long cylinder of radius R has positive charge uniformly distributed over its volume. The amount of charge is λ Coulombs per meter of length of the cylinder. A spherical cavity of radius R' < R, centered on the axis of the cylinder, has been cut out of this cylinder, and the charge in this cavity has been discarded. Find the electric field as a function of distance from the center of the sphere along the axis of the cylinder.


Homework Equations



Gauss' Law: Flux = q / ε
Superposition Principle: F(total) = ƩF (individual)

The Attempt at a Solution



I imagined a gaussian sphere for a r < R', which would enclose zero charge. Thus, by Gauss' law, the flux through the sphere would be zero, and thus the E field is zero withing the cavity. However, the answer is wrong, so my reasoning is flawed. Can someone help me understand? A section in the book mentions that I can imagine the cylinder without the cavity, then subtract the vector of a sphere with opposite charge density. I'm still not sure how to do this.

Any help would be great! I'm self studying the book, so there's not many people to ask.
 
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Quantum1990 said:

Homework Statement


A very long cylinder of radius R has positive charge uniformly distributed over its volume. The amount of charge is λ Coulombs per meter of length of the cylinder. A spherical cavity of radius R' < R, centered on the axis of the cylinder, has been cut out of this cylinder, and the charge in this cavity has been discarded. Find the electric field as a function of distance from the center of the sphere along the axis of the cylinder.

Homework Equations



Gauss' Law: Flux = q / ε
Superposition Principle: F(total) = ƩF (individual)

The Attempt at a Solution



I imagined a Gaussian sphere for a r < R', which would enclose zero charge. Thus, by Gauss' law, the flux through the sphere would be zero, and thus the E field is zero withing the cavity. However, the answer is wrong, so my reasoning is flawed. Can someone help me understand? A section in the book mentions that I can imagine the cylinder without the cavity, then subtract the vector of a sphere with opposite charge density. I'm still not sure how to do this.

Any help would be great! I'm self studying the book, so there's not many people to ask.

Homework Statement



Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution

Hello Quantum1990. Welcome to PF !

A big clue here is to use superposition.

How about using a complete cylinder, with uniform positive charge density. Superimpose into that a sphere with uniform negative charge density.
 
Thanks for the insight! But where does my argument break down? If there is no enclosed charge in the cavity, isn't there no electric field there?

Rereading, the only answer I can find is that I improperly used a Gaussian surface because the sphere has a radial inward field, but the cylinder has a radially outwards one.
 
Quantum1990 said:
I imagined a gaussian sphere for a r < R', which would enclose zero charge. Thus, by Gauss' law, the flux through the sphere would be zero,

The above statement is correct

Quantum1990 said:
and thus the E field is zero withing the cavity.

This statement is not correct. What is the reasoning that you used to go from "flux is zero" to "E is zero"?
 

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