Geneaolgy Research - Probabilty of Someone having the same name

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the probability of individuals sharing the same name and birth date, particularly in the context of genealogy research. Participants explore how to approach this problem, considering factors such as name commonality and historical population data.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the challenge of determining the odds of someone having the same name and birth date, especially given the commonality of the last name "Smith" in Minnesota in 1907.
  • Another participant suggests that names are not independent and proposes checking records to estimate the probability of matching first names among individuals with the last name "Smith."
  • A different participant introduces a probabilistic thought experiment involving randomly selecting people and states that the probability of at least three sharing the same name or having different names equals one.
  • One participant expresses interest in the topic and references external resources for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific method for calculating the probability, and multiple approaches and viewpoints are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of calculating probabilities related to names, including the dependence of names on cultural and demographic factors, as well as the limitations of available data.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in genealogy research, probability theory, and those exploring the implications of name commonality in historical contexts may find this discussion relevant.

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I never posted in this forum, so if this questions is not relevant, please let me know. I have a family member trying to trace the biological father of my adopted grandfather. From his adoption records she has been able to find a person who matches his name - first, middle and last as well as the same birthday. The last name is Smith so it's common but this was also Minnesota in 1907 (population not too large). I think we have found the right person, but what are the odds of someone having the same name and birth date in a given year.

Since some names are more common that others, I realize this is difficult problem to actually compute, but how does one think about this type of probability?
 
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It's a hard problem because names aren't independent. A "Smith" is more likely to be a "Lawrence" than a "Maurice" (though they're of similar popularity in the overall population).

Toward a first approximation, since Smith is a popular name, I would check records (whatever you can find... SS death records if nothing else, though use a later date in that case) to see what percentage of Smiths in Minnesota have a matching first name and what percentage have a missing last name. Multiply those probabilities together then by the number of people in your database (hopefully not the same one you used to get the percentages) to get a rough first guess of how many matches you'd expect through chance alone. If it's small, there's a good chance that's the one.
 
Randomly pick 6 people from the street. The probability for at least 3 of them have same name or at least 3 of them have different name equals to 1.
 
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