General solution of a linear ordinary differential equation

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The discussion revolves around the representation of the general solution of a linear ordinary differential equation (ODE) in terms of its initial conditions. Participants explore the relationship between the solution and its initial values, particularly in the context of nth order homogeneous ODEs.

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  • One participant questions whether the general solution of a linear ODE can be expressed in terms of initial conditions and seeks proof or explanation for this representation.
  • Another participant suggests that the representation resembles a Taylor-Maclaurin series expansion around a point, indicating that initial conditions influence the solution.
  • A third participant describes the concept of "fundamental" solutions for nth order homogeneous ODEs, detailing how any solution can be expressed as a linear combination of these fundamental solutions, with coefficients corresponding to initial values.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the definition and significance of the "fundamental" solutions and the conditions they satisfy at a specific point.

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Participants generally agree on the relationship between initial conditions and the solutions of linear ODEs, but there is uncertainty and confusion regarding the definitions and implications of "fundamental" solutions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of these concepts.

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Some participants note that the explanation of fundamental solutions and their properties may depend on specific definitions and assumptions that are not fully articulated in the discussion.

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Hi all.
Can the general solution of a linear ordinary differential equation be expressed in terms of its initial conditions?
It seems that I have seem this kind of representation.
It makes "some sense" to me but I hope to know if there is some "proof" or explanation of why it can be?

To be specific, for a n-th order ODE,
the solution is something like
y = y(xo)(something) + y'(xo)(something) + ... + y(n-1)(xo)(something)...

why?
 
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Hallo. The equation you mention here looks only like a Taylor- Mac Laurin development of the y(x0 + epsilon) function arond y(x0). Your something should be a factor (1/N!). epsilon ^N with N = 0, 1, ... Why it is so ? Well a good question but I need help too. Certainly the explanation is related to the methods of the infinitesimal calculus. The fact is that such a development demonstrates the relationship between the function in or at x0 plus epsilon and the function in or at xo. So yes conditions somewhere else have an influence on what hapens here.
 
Given any linear, nth (homogeneous) ordinary differential equation, you can define its "fundamental" solutions (at x= x0) as the solutions satisfiying
1) Y1(x0)= 1, Y1'(x0= 0, Y1"(x0)= 0, ...
2)Y2(x0)= 0, Y2'(x0)= 1, Y2"(x0)= 0, ...
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n)Yn(x0)= 0, Yn'(x0)= 0, Yn"(x0= 0, ..., Yn(n)(x0)= 1.

Any solution to the differential equation can be written as a linear combination of those: Y(x)= C1Y1(x)+ C1Y2(x)+ ...+ CnYn(x).

If you set x= x0 in that equation you get C1= Y(x0).
If you differentiate both sides of the equation to get Y'(x)= C1Y1'(x)+ C2Y2'(x)+ ... and set = x0, you get C2=Y'(x0). Continuing in that way, you see that the coefficients are precisely the "initial values" for Y.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Given any linear, nth (homogeneous) ordinary differential equation, you can define its "fundamental" solutions (at x= x0) as the solutions satisfiying
1) Y1(x0)= 1, Y1'(x0= 0, Y1"(x0)= 0, ...
2)Y2(x0)= 0, Y2'(x0)= 1, Y2"(x0)= 0, ...
.
.
.
n)Yn(x0)= 0, Yn'(x0)= 0, Yn"(x0= 0, ..., Yn(n)(x0)= 1.

Any solution to the differential equation can be written as a linear combination of those: Y(x)= C1Y1(x)+ C1Y2(x)+ ...+ CnYn(x).

If you set x= x0 in that equation you get C1= Y(x0).
If you differentiate both sides of the equation to get Y'(x)= C1Y1'(x)+ C2Y2'(x)+ ... and set = x0, you get C2=Y'(x0). Continuing in that way, you see that the coefficients are precisely the "initial values" for Y.

i have problem understanding the following..
"define its "fundamental" solutions (at x= x0) as the solutions satisfiying
1) Y1(x0)= 1, Y1'(x0= 0, Y1"(x0)= 0, ...
2)Y2(x0)= 0, Y2'(x0)= 1, Y2"(x0)= 0, ...
.
.
.
n)Yn(x0)= 0, Yn'(x0)= 0, Yn"(x0= 0, ..., Yn(n)(x0)= 1."

why is this so...?
 

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