Generating rotons in superfluids

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the generation of rotons in superfluid helium-4 (HE-4), specifically exploring how these phonons are produced within the superfluid state. Participants seek references and insights into the mechanisms behind roton generation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the generation of rotons in superfluid HE-4 and requests articles or answers on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests an article on the observation of rotons in Bose-Einstein condensates (BEC) as potentially useful.
  • A third participant references chapter 2.7 of James Annett's book "Superconductivity, Superfluids, and Condensates" as a good source for information on the subject, recommending the book for its clarity and comprehensiveness.
  • There is a discussion about the legality of a linked PDF of the book, with one participant expressing concern that it may not be legally shared, while another defends the link's legitimacy based on its hosting by a university.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the legality of the linked PDF, and there is no agreement on a definitive explanation of how rotons are generated, as the inquiry remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific mechanisms of roton generation in superfluid HE-4, and the discussion includes references to external sources that may or may not provide comprehensive answers.

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In superfluid HE-4 there is a kind of phonon called a roton. In most websites they specify some of the information on rotons although, they don't attend to the question of how are these rotons are generated?
Can you refer me to an article on this or do you have an answer on this (how they are generated in superfluid)?
 
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This is covered very nicely in chapter 2.7 of James Annett's book "Superconductivity, Superfluids, and Condensates". Honestly, I recommend you buy the book and read the whole thing. Like all books in the Oxford Masters Series, it is little more than a slip of a book, but presents an immense amount of information in a simple and easily digestible format.

PS to Mods: The link to the pdf of the book is hosted by a university. I would like to assume this means they have permission to provide the book for free, but remove the link if you think it violates PF rules/ethics.
 
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PS to Mods: The link to the pdf of the book is hosted by a university. I would like to assume this means they have permission to provide the book for free, but remove the link if you think it violates PF rules/ethics.
I do not think that this pdf of the book is legal (it is a scan from a library copy). I have changed the link to point to the publisher's website.
 

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