Geometric/algebraic proof of a quadratic

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The discussion revolves around constructing an algebraic proof related to a geometric problem involving similar triangles and a quadratic equation. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem using the provided diagram.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss completing the square as a potential algebraic method and explore the relationships between similar triangles in the diagram. Questions arise about the validity of certain assumptions regarding triangle similarity and the implications of the circle's center on segment lengths.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering various insights into the relationships between the triangles and questioning the assumptions made. Some guidance has been provided regarding the identification of similar triangles, but no consensus or clear direction has emerged yet.

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Participants are working with a diagram that includes specific lengths and relationships, but there is uncertainty about how to utilize this information effectively in their proofs. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the geometric properties involved.

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http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4029/screenshot20110106at123.png

i don't know how to construct an algebraic proof from this or how to attempt it.

thank you

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For an algebraic proof you can complete the square then solve for x.
 
yes.

but i mean with the information from the drawing.

there are two similar triangles, therefore QN/2 = NY/QY. but how can one proceed here?
 
or put it in another way, can't find more similar triangles. where is the next one?
 
There are many similar triangles, such as OPP' with OQQ' and ONQ with OPM and OPN with OMQ where O is the circle center. But I don't know where to go from there yet.
 
assuming that O is the center, which means ON=OQ=OM=QP=1, => NQ=PM=1.
but how can one deduce that the cutting point of P'Q' and PQ is the origin, is there some proof?
 
How are you able to conclude that ON = OQ for example? In particular, I doubt that P'Q' hits the origin. This would only be true if (by similarity) PP' = QQ', and there doesn't seem to be any reason why that must happen.
 
right. was a wrong assumption.

i guess the vital part is to make constructions with Q'Q,PP' and 2, the only known lengths and to equate the ratios of similar triangles to finally have QY=...,QX=...
 

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