B Geometric and arithmetic means and contraction factor

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The discussion centers on whether the relativistic contraction factor can be expressed as the ratio of the geometric mean to the arithmetic mean of the terms C+v and C-v. While some participants acknowledge the mathematical validity of this statement, they argue that it lacks physical significance and does not enhance understanding of the phenomenon. The contraction factor, represented by gamma (γ), is more meaningfully related to rapidity (ψ) rather than the means. Overall, the consensus suggests that while the identity may be useful for algebraic manipulation, it does not provide deeper insight into the physical implications of relativistic effects. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between mathematical identities and their physical interpretations.
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Geometric and arithmetic means and contraction factor
Is it correct to state that the relativistic contraction factor is the ratio of the geometric mean to the arithmetic mean of the terms ##C+v## and ##C-v##?
 
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Ibix said:
Why do you think so?
I think the following:
Although mathematically it coincides, interpreting the contraction factor as the quotient of two means may not fit the physical nature of the phenomenon.
 
south said:
I think the following:
Although mathematically it coincides, interpreting the contraction factor as the quotient of two means may not fit the physical nature of the phenomenon.
There's nothing wrong with stating it. If you end up doing algebra in SR knowing identities for ##\gamma## is often helpful. I don't see that it adds any physical insight though. More useful to know that ##\gamma =\cosh\psi##, where ##\psi## is the rapidity.
 
Ibix said:
There's nothing wrong with stating it. If you end up doing algebra in SR knowing identities for ##\gamma## is often helpful. I don't see that it adds any physical insight though. More useful to know that ##\gamma =\cosh\psi##, where ##\psi## is the rapidity.
I don't find any correlation with the physical situation in that statement about the means. It seems like an empty mathematical game to me.
 
Yes. It might be a useful algebraic identity in some situation, but that's all.
 
Ok, agree. Thank you very much.