Geometric interpretation of a given Alexandrov compactification

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The discussion revolves around the Alexandrov compactification of a specific set defined by the inequality \(x^2 - y^2 \geq 1\) and \(x > 0\), focusing on its geometric interpretation. Participants explore the relationship between this compactification and various geometric shapes, including the semi-sphere, closed disc, and the set \([0,1] \times [0,1]\).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the given set is homeomorphic to \([0,1) \times [0,1)\) and that its Alexandrov compactification is \([0,1] \times [0,1]\), but expresses uncertainty about the reasoning.
  • Another participant agrees with the homeomorphism but suggests that the reasoning might be flawed, pointing out that the Alexandrov compactification of \((0,1) \times (0,1)\) is the 2-sphere \(S^2\), indicating a need for a guiding geometric picture.
  • A participant proposes that the points at infinity in the original set correspond to the top and right sides of the semi-open square, leading to a compactification homeomorphic to \([0,1] \times [0,1]\).
  • One participant reflects on their thought process regarding the compactification, considering the semi-sphere and closed disc as potential interpretations, and questions which is "more right." They express a preference for the closed disc.
  • Another participant agrees that none of the interpretations is definitively more correct than the others, but also favors the closed disk.
  • Participants discuss the interior of a set \(A\) within a subspace \(X\), with one participant initially claiming the interior is \(A\) itself, while another corrects this to \(A \setminus \{(1,0), (-1,0)\}\).
  • There is a question regarding the necessity of providing an explicit formula for homeomorphism in an exam context, with responses indicating that it may depend on the instructor's expectations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the homeomorphic nature of the sets discussed, but there is no consensus on the most appropriate geometric interpretation of the Alexandrov compactification. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of explicit formulas for homeomorphisms in exams.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the reasoning behind their claims and the definitions involved in the compactification process. There are also unresolved questions about the interior of the set \(A\) and the expectations for proving homeomorphism.

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What is the Alexandrov compactification of the following set and give the geometric interpretation of it:

[(x,y): x^2-y^2>=1, x>0] that is, the right part of the hyperbola along with the point in it.

This is a question from my todays exam in topology. I wrote that the given set is homeomorphic to the set [0,1)x[0,1) the alexandrov compactification of which is [0,1]x[0,1].

However I'm not sure at all. Is this correct?
 
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Well, you are right that the given set is homeomorphic to the set [0,1)x[0,1) and you are also right that the alexandrov compactification of it is [0,1]x[0,1].

But maybe you got the right answer for the wrong reason. For instance, what would you say is the Alexandroff compactification of the open square (0,1)x(0,1)?

It is not [0,1]x[0,1]; it is the 2-sphere S². The Alexandroff compactification is also called the one-point compactification because what it does typically is that it takes all the points "at infinity" and glue/collapse/identify them to a single point, which we usually write \infty. This is the guiding picture to keep in mind while guessing what the Alexandroff compactification of a given space is. Once you've guessed what geometrical shape corresponds to the Alexandroff compactification, you need to produce an explicit homeomorphism between them in order to verify that your intuition was good.

For instance in the case of the compactification of (0,1)x(0,1), the homeomorphism f: S² --> (0,1)x(0,1) u {\infty} is define by part by f=(stereographic projection on S²\{south pole}) and f(south pole)=\infty.

In your case, the "points at infinity" correspond to the points on the top side and right side of your "semi-open square" [0,1)x[0,1). Collapsing them onto a point gives something homeomorphic to [0,1]x[0,1].
 
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I kind of guessed and didnt put any reasons in the response. thinking now i should have procesed this way:
1. the given set i homeomorphic to the right semiplane. the compactification of alexandrov of which is clearly (by the stereographic projection) the semi-sphere (including the maximum circle).
2. The semi-sphere is homeomorphic to a closed disc which is homeomorphyc to [0,1]x[0,1].

But the question was: give the geometrical definition of the compactification. Whats "more right", semi-sphere, closed disc or [0,1]x[0,1]?

one other question asked for the intern of the set A in the subspace X (X subspace of E^2). A being the unit circle. B being [(x,y): x^2-y^2>=1, x>0] and C [(x,y): x^2-y^2>1, x<0]. X=AUBUC.
I put some crazy arguments and wrote that the intern of A is A itself.
But it is A\(1,0),(-1,0) is it?

On an exam, when proving homeomorphism is it necessary to give explicit formula of it or it is acceptable to only give a wordily, however logicaly consistent, description of the 1-1 mapping?
 
prce said:
I kind of guessed and didnt put any reasons in the response. thinking now i should have procesed this way:
1. the given set i homeomorphic to the right semiplane. the compactification of alexandrov of which is clearly (by the stereographic projection) the semi-sphere (including the maximum circle).
2. The semi-sphere is homeomorphic to a closed disc which is homeomorphyc to [0,1]x[0,1].

But the question was: give the geometrical definition of the compactification. Whats "more right", semi-sphere, closed disc or [0,1]x[0,1]?
I don't think one is more right that any other. I do like the closed disk best personally.


prce said:
one other question asked for the intern of the set A in the subspace X (X subspace of E^2). A being the unit circle. B being [(x,y): x^2-y^2>=1, x>0] and C [(x,y): x^2-y^2>1, x<0]. X=AUBUC.
I put some crazy arguments and wrote that the intern of A is A itself.
But it is A\(1,0),(-1,0) is it?
I'm afraid so!

prce said:
On an exam, when proving homeomorphism is it necessary to give explicit formula of it or it is acceptable to only give a wordily, however logicaly consistent, description of the 1-1 mapping?
It depends on your teacher. In the case of the compactification question, I would have given a picture to explain the map, and also to show why it is a homeomorphism.
 

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