Getting back up after failing? [Question specifically to Professors]

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the experiences and strategies of students who have faced academic challenges, specifically failing a course in their first year of university, and the potential to recover and achieve a good cumulative GPA (CGPA) of 3.50 or higher by graduation. The conversation touches on personal anecdotes, advice on improving academic performance, and institutional policies regarding GPA calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their personal experience of receiving a D- in calculus but later excelling in real analysis and gaining admission to a top graduate school.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of improving academic performance immediately rather than relying on future efforts.
  • A suggestion is made to check the school's policy on GPA calculations, as different institutions may have varying methods for handling retaken courses.
  • A participant recounts a classmate who significantly improved their test score after an initial poor performance, indicating that recovery is possible.
  • There is a discussion about how poor performance can be overlooked if followed by consistent success, although the criteria for what constitutes success is questioned.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of a failing grade on GPA calculations, with one participant noting that the first grade typically counts towards CGPA while the second may only appear on the transcript.
  • Another participant mentions that students with a CGPA between 1.50-1.85 may be placed on probation, highlighting institutional responses to academic performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of experiences and opinions regarding the possibility of recovering from a failing grade. While some share positive outcomes and strategies for improvement, others raise concerns about institutional policies and the implications of GPA calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take after a failure and the specific criteria for academic success.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying institutional policies on GPA calculations, the subjective nature of what constitutes success, and the lack of consensus on the best strategies for academic recovery.

Who May Find This Useful

Students facing academic challenges, educators interested in student performance trends, and individuals exploring the impact of GPA on academic trajectories.

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Hey everyone,

I was wondering, specifically if the Professors or teachers could answer this; as to whether you have ever seen someone who has failed a course in their first year of university but was still able to maintain a very good CGPA? Something in the 3.50 range, that is though after done all 4 years of school.

The reason I ask is that I know that if you fail a course in university you get an automatic "0" even if you failed by 1%. We all know what a 0% does to the GPA, so I was just wondering if this has been accomplished.

I also ask this because I have somewhat slacking off in Calculus this year, I don't expect to fail but just in case and in the worst case scenario. Now Calculus isn't really that important to me, since I only need to take it in first year and won't need it later on. But is it possible to still gain a 3.50+ after all four years are finished?

Thanks for the answers.
 
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i got a D- in 2nd semester calc, and an A- in senior year real analysis, got into a top grad school, and am now a famous genius. (if you never heard of me its obviously your fault.)
 
You can pull yourself up, no doubt, but don't plan to do better later; start doing better now. If you don't improve now, there's not much to say that you can do it later on.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the replies. Mathemaniac, I was actually thinking of how I should do that. I was planning on starting right now with my latest test coming up to study more an put more effort into it. I can say proudly that I have put in twice the amount of effort already so hopefully I will change for the better.

I am also planning on starting to reread most of the major topics again to understand them fully and to be able to grasp all the concept better.
 
You should also check your school's policy on calculating GPA if you retake a class. Some will average the two attempts, some will disregard the first attempt if you pass on a second attempt, some will just count each in your GPA, etc. How they weight it would change the way it impacts your GPA (I'm assuming if you fail you will need to retake the course...or will at least be faced with deciding if you are going to retake it).
 
someone in my class who made a 30 on his first test, winding up getting the highest test grade(90) on his second test.
 
basically any amount of poor performance can be forgiven, and usually is, IF it is followed by an UNBROKEN string of success later. (except in les miserables.)
 
Last time I checked, they use the first grade in your CGPA calculation, and the second one only appears on your transcript.

Benzoate, seems that guy really worked hard for the second test. I just hope my efforts will show some improvement in the final; as my final is worth 50% of my final grade. Currently I have around a 60% in the course so I hope I won't screw up.
 
mathwonk said:
basically any amount of poor performance can be forgiven, and usually is, IF it is followed by an UNBROKEN string of success later. (except in les miserables.)
And success qualifies as which grade point...?
 
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Defennnder said:
And success qualifies as which grade point...?

I am guessing if you can show that you don't fail or drop back to that certain GPA level as before then you probably have a good chance. I know that at my University, if a student has somewhere between 1.50-1.85 CGPA they are put on probation until the next session is over and they have proven to be able to keep up their marks.
 

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