Giant Straw: Will Earth's Atmosphere be Sucked Out?

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving a giant straw extending from Earth's surface into space and the implications of uncapping it on the atmosphere. Participants explore concepts related to atmospheric pressure, vacuum, and the behavior of gases in this unusual setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether uncapping a giant straw would result in Earth's atmosphere being sucked out into space or if gravity would prevent this from happening.
  • Another participant suggests that building a hollow cylindrical tower would not cause air to rush out, as it would merely enclose a stable column of air.
  • A different viewpoint states that nothing would happen because a vacuum does not exert a pulling force; rather, suction is the absence of atmospheric pressure.
  • One participant claims that the atmosphere and space's vacuum would not breach each other, and the air inside the straw would equalize with the surrounding atmosphere.
  • Another participant explains air pressure as the weight of a column of air, indicating that enclosing it in a pipe does not change its behavior.
  • A later reply speculates that if the straw were built in a vacuum and then opened at sea level, air would rush in to fill it to the height of the atmospheric column, but no higher.
  • One participant provides a practical example using a normal-sized straw to illustrate how air pressure works in a similar context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of uncapping the straw, with some asserting that nothing would happen while others explore the implications of air rushing into the straw. No consensus is reached on the overall outcome of the scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the behavior of air pressure and vacuum without resolving the underlying assumptions about the mechanics involved in the hypothetical straw scenario.

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This is a dumb question that my coworkers and I are debating, and we can't come up with an answer.

Say one were to build a giant straw with one capped end that extends from sea level into space, out past Earth's gravitational field. What happens when the end is uncapped? Does the atmosphere of Earth get sucked out into space? Or does Earth's gravity overpower the suction of the vacuum?

Just curious.
 
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Imagine you gradually build a hollow cylindrical tower from sea level to space. When you reach the upper edges of the atmosphere, does the air suddenly rush out of the tower? No, you've essentially just built a wall around a stably existing column of air, which isn't going to make it suddenly unstable. But this is the same thing as the straw.
 
Nothing would happen. A vacuum doesn't exert any pulling force. What most people call suction is the absense of atmospheric pressure. A beverage rises up a drinking straw because at the bottom of the straw atmospheric pressure pushes upward on the liquid, and at the top of the straw the atmospheric pressure has been removed, leaving no downward force to oppose the upward force.
 
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Nothing will happen. Whether you build it in our atmosphere and extend it into outer space or build it in space and extend it into our atmosphere...the Earth's atmosphere and Space's vacuum will not breach each other. The area inside the straw will equalize.
 
One useful way to think of air pressure is that it is the weight of a column of air of a given cross sectional area, extending from sea level to space. (ie, the weight of a 1 sq in. column of air is 14.7 lb) Whether that column of air is enclosed in a pipe or not is irrelevant.
 
Ah, ok. So if the big straw was built in the vacuum of space, and the capped end were inserted into the atmosphere, lowered to sea level, and then opened, air would rush in and fill up the straw up to the height that column of air would be if it were part of the atmosphere outside the straw but no more?

While that would make an interesting satellite launching cannon, there goes my bond villainesque blackmail-the-world-for-a-billion-dollars device. :-(
 
Yeah, exactly. In fact you can do this with a normal-sized straw. Put your thumb over the top so the air can't get out, and stick it in your drink. The inside of the straw stays dry. Then take your thumb off the top and water rushes into fill the inside of the straw to the same level as the outside, but no higher.
 

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