Novice's Question on Spontaneous SUSY Breaking & Goldstinos

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The discussion revolves around spontaneous supersymmetry (SUSY) breaking and the properties of goldstinos, particularly in relation to mass eigenvalues and the structure of fields in SUSY theories. Participants explore the implications of non-zero vacuum expectation values (VEVs) of auxiliary fields and their connection to massless particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the vector ##\tilde{G}## is proportional to the goldstino wave function and seeks clarification on the relationship between massless fields and VEVs of auxiliary fields.
  • Another participant asserts that the vector ##G## has zero mass eigenvalues, indicating it is a massless field, and connects this to the concept of symmetry breaking and Nambu Goldstone fields.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the exact form of the goldstino field, suggesting it may not be a straightforward combination of fields but must relate to the auxiliary fields' VEVs.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the goldstino taking away degrees of freedom from Weyl spinors or gauginos, with a focus on achieving zero mass eigenvalues.
  • One participant proposes a method to diagonalize the fermion mass matrix and claims that one of the new fields corresponds to a zero eigenvalue, seeking algebraic proof of this statement.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the operator ##m_F G## acting on the space of fields is equivalent to zero, which they argue defines a massless goldstino.
  • There is confusion expressed by some participants regarding the mathematical representation of ##m_F G## and its implications for defining the goldstino field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the nature of the goldstino and its relationship to mass eigenvalues, with no consensus reached on the exact formulation or proof of the statements discussed. Multiple competing interpretations and uncertainties remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of the mathematical framework and the definitions involved, particularly regarding the representation of operators and the conditions under which the goldstino is defined.

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I'm a novice in SUSY and I'v got a question concerning spontaneous supersymmetry breaking and goldstinos. In Martin's review on page 68 there is a proof of a statement about existence of massless particle when one of ##F_i##'s or ##D_a##'s VEV is not zero. The thing I don't get is why vector ##\tilde{G}## is proportional to goldstino wave function. I guess that it means that after diagonalization of ##m_F## there is a field ##\Psi = \sum F_i \, \Psi_i + \sum D_a \, \lambda_a##, that corresponds to zero eigenvalue of ##m_F##. Is it correct? If so, could you please give any hints of proof of this statement.
 
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Well, if I understand your question, the vector G has by definition zero mass eigenvalues, so it's a massless field.
This can be written as m_F G = 0 \times G.
As he states the G is non-trivial only if the vevs are non-zero (so you have the symmetry breaking and thus the Nambu Goldstone field).
 
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ChrisVer said:
Well, if I understand your question, the vector G has by definition zero mass eigenvalues, so it's a massless field.
This can be written as m_F G = 0 \times G.
As he states the G is non-trivial only if the vevs are non-zero (so you have the symmetry breaking and thus the Nambu Goldstone field).

Yes, basically I can prove that ##G## vector has zero eigenvalue. But obviously it's not goldstino field,because it's a constant. I assume that goldstino field is ##\sum_i \, F_i \, \psi_i + \sum_a \, D_a \, \lambda_a## but I cannot prove it.
 
it doesn't have to be exactly this kind of combination. The components of the Weyl spinors and gauginos (your set of basis) just have to be proportional to the auxiliary fields' vevs (G), so that the Goldstino will keep being massless.
 
ChrisVer said:
it doesn't have to be exactly this kind of combination. The components of the Weyl spinors and gauginos (your set of basis) just have to be proportional to the auxiliary fields' vevs (G), so that the Goldstino will keep being massless.

Could you please prove this statement? In fact this is the point that I don't get... :(
 
Because you want to get zero mass eigenvalue for the goldstino...
The goldstino is going to take away some degrees of freedom from your Weyl spinor or gauginos...
 
ChrisVer said:
Because you want to get zero mass eigenvalue for the goldstino...
The goldstino is going to take away some degrees of freedom from your Weyl spinor or gauginos...

Ok, let me explain how I see it...For simplcity let's consider theory wtih only chiral superfields. We know that in some mininum of scalar potential ##V(\phi,\phi^*)## VEV's of auxillary fields ##F_i## are nonzero and vector ##(F_1,...,F_N)## is anihillated by fermion mass matrix ##m_F##. Than I would try to diagonalize this matrix by introducing new fermion fields ##\tilde{\psi}_i##. My statement is as follows: one of this fields ##\tilde{\psi}_k = \sum_{i} F_i \, \psi_i## corresponds to zero eigenvalue. I guess that it's a true statement. Could you please prove it (algebraically, using formulas)? As for me, I have no idea how to do it :(
 
I think it's pretty clear, the operator m_F G acting on the space of \left \{ \psi_i , \lambda_a \right\} is equivalent as an operator to the 0, and that's the definition of a massless goldstino.
 
ChrisVer said:
I think it's pretty clear, the operator m_F G acting on the space of \left \{ \psi_i , \lambda_a \right\} is equivalent as an operator to the 0, and that's the definition of a massless goldstino.

Unfortunately, it's not pretty clear for me because ##m_F G## is not even a matrix...
 
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it's zero...
 
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ChrisVer said:
it's zero...

Ok, then arbitrary vector is goldstino field...?
 

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