Good reference book for U.S. constitution?

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The discussion centers around finding reference books for the U.S. Constitution, including the full text, amendments, historical context, and interpretations. Participants express a desire for resources that provide insights into the authors and the historical circumstances surrounding the Constitution and its amendments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a comprehensive guide that includes the Constitution, amendments, and historical context.
  • Another suggests Wikipedia as a starting point, but acknowledges the request for a physical book.
  • Several participants mention the Federalist Papers as valuable but note they do not cover amendments, particularly recent ones.
  • Some participants express that the Federalist Papers are not a quick read and suggest alternative books, including "Five Thousand Year Leap," which has a specific ideological bent.
  • One participant lists various downloadable resources available online, including annotated versions of the Constitution.
  • Another participant shares their library finds, including an annotated Constitution and the Federalist Papers, and discusses the importance of commentary on interpretation.
  • Discussions arise about the historical meanings of terms used in the Constitution, particularly "regulation," and how these meanings may differ from modern interpretations.
  • There is mention of the need to consider the context of language used by the authors, including the backgrounds of figures like Hamilton and Jefferson.

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Participants express a variety of opinions on the best resources, with no consensus on a single recommended book. Different perspectives on the value and readability of the Federalist Papers and other texts are presented, indicating ongoing debate about the best approach to understanding the Constitution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of certain texts, such as the Federalist Papers not addressing amendments, and the varying interpretations of language used in the Constitution, which may depend on historical context.

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I'm looking for some kind of reference/guide book for the U.S. constitution. I actually don't know exactly what I'm looking for, but I envision something which contains the full document and all the ammendments, but also information about the people and history behind the document - facts and tidbits about the authors, the circumstances and history behind each ammendment, and perhaps discussion of modern day interpretation.

I'm sure there must be dozens of sources like this, but knowing the name of something is half the battle... any suggestions/reccomendations?
 
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Thanks, but I'm requesting a book because I plan on reading this material on a plane ride in a few weeks, so I can't use the internet - however I'll look at the references and see if any of them are what I'm looking for.
 
The Federalist Papers describe what the original authors were thinking. However, they don't discuss amendments. Particularly the recent ones, since the authors are by that time dead.
 
Federalist Papers are fascinating but not a quick read(for me at least).

"Five Thousand Year Leap" is interesting but has a religious and conservative bent to it that puts some people off.
Might be about right for a plane ride though.

"Federalist Papers" deserves serious study .
 
dipole said:
Thanks, but I'm requesting a book because I plan on reading this material on a plane ride in a few weeks, so I can't use the internet - however I'll look at the references and see if any of them are what I'm looking for.

You could also use your computer without having internet access.
You could download many of the references cited on wikipedia.
You could also download the wikipedia page itself.

On archive.org and elsewhere you might find many downloadble books, like for example:

https://archive.org/details/TheConstitutionOfTheUSWithExplanatoryNotes
https://archive.org/details/TheDeclarationOfIndependenceAndYourCompleteConstitution-WithEasy
https://archive.org/details/US_Government_Manual_2005-2006
https://archive.org/details/greatwordsfromgr00uscouoft
https://archive.org/details/commentariesonco01storuoft
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/...The-Constitution-by-Joseph-Story-Abridged.pdf
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The Federalist Papers describe what the original authors were thinking. However, they don't discuss amendments. Particularly the recent ones, since the authors are by that time dead.

The Federalist Papers were a series of articles written at the time immediately after the Constitution had been drafted and signed. The idea behind these articles was to urge ratification by the states of this new document.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers

The authors of the papers were secret at the time of publication, but later, it is thought that Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay were the three men chiefly responsible for authoring these papers, either individually or in collaboration.

The Federalist Papers, although advocating the ratification of the Constitution, are remarkable for being against adopting the Bill of Rights, as the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution are now known.
 
dipole said:
I'm looking for some kind of reference/guide book for the U.S. constitution. I actually don't know exactly what I'm looking for, but I envision something which contains the full document and all the ammendments, but also information about the people and history behind the document - facts and tidbits about the authors, the circumstances and history behind each ammendment, and perhaps discussion of modern day interpretation.

I'm sure there must be dozens of sources like this, but knowing the name of something is half the battle... any suggestions/recommendations?
Certainly the Federalist Papers are worth reading, as others have recommended, as are the papers of Hamilton, Jay, Jefferson and Adams.

Perhaps one can start with an 'annotated' version of the US Constitution.

https://beta.congress.gov/constitution-annotated
https://beta.congress.gov/content/conan/pdf/GPO-CONAN-2013.pdf (2830 pages; ~20 MB)

More on the US Constitution at the National Archives
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_history.html
 
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So I picked up three books today from the library,

One is a copy of the complete Federalist papers, one is an annotated copy of the entire constitution, and figured I'd throw in 'Rights of Man' by Thomas Paine. 'Common Sense' would probably be more appropriate, but that's much shorter and I'll probably read that before I leave.

Thanks for all the suggestions!
 
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dipole said:
So I picked up three books today from the library,

One is a copy of the complete Federalist papers, one is an annotated copy of the entire constitution, and figured I'd throw in 'Rights of Man' by Thomas Paine. 'Common Sense' would probably be more appropriate, but that's much shorter and I'll probably read that before I leave.

Thanks for all the suggestions!
Which version of the Federalist did one buy?

I have the Bantam (1982) paperback text. The author is Gary Wills. He gives some interesting commentary, especially about how folks may interpret the language differently, particularly in modern times, with meanings different from those expressed or implied by the authors.

See also texts on the Constitutional Convention (1787), aka Philadelphia Convention, . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Convention_(United_States )

and the Articles of Confederation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation
 
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...how folks may interpret the language differently, particularly in modern times, with meanings different from those expressed or implied by the authors.
It is interesting indeed to look into the usages that were popular at the time.

For example, the term "regulation" had recently(~1760) acquired a meaning in the new field of botany, which was a hobby of Jefferson;
'the ability of an organism to adapt existing tissue to another purpose as opposed to growing it anew"...

which makes me wonder , was there perhaps a waggish double-entendre in his phrase "well regulated militia" ?

Look for one of those dictionaries that gives dates in its etymology notes.
 
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jim hardy said:
It is interesting indeed to look into the usages that were popular at the time.

For example, the term "regulation" had recently(~1760) acquired a meaning in the new field of botany, which was a hobby of Jefferson;
'the ability of an organism to adapt existing tissue to another purpose as opposed to growing it anew"...

which makes me wonder , was there perhaps a waggish double-entendre in his phrase "well regulated militia" ?

Look for one of those dictionaries that gives dates in its etymology notes.
I would love to have some old dictionaries (of the English language and European languages) from the 1700s and 1800s.

Wills makes comments about Hamilton's background, including an interest in protecting manufacturing interests, as well as Jefferson's agrarian background.

As for the term regulation, one would have to look at terms used in technology, industry or politics to see how the term 'regulate' or 'regulation' are used. They appear numerous times in the US Constitution.
 
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