GPS Satellite Orbital Speed: 5.50km/s

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital speed of a GPS satellite, which orbits at an altitude of 2.0e7 m. Participants are examining the relevant equations and constants, including the mass of the Earth, the gravitational constant, and the radius of the Earth.

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  • The original poster attempts to use the equation for escape velocity to find the orbital speed, leading to confusion about the correct formula. Some participants question the use of constants and the addition of altitude to the Earth's radius. Others suggest deriving the correct equation using Newton's laws.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the correct approach to calculating orbital speed. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original equation used by the poster, and some guidance has been offered regarding the proper use of constants and the need to adjust the radius for altitude.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of gravitational forces and centripetal forces at the specified altitude, as well as the implications of using the escape velocity formula incorrectly.

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A typical GPS (Global Positioning System) satellite orbits at an altitude of 2.0e7 m.

Find the orbital speed of such a satellite in km/s.


So we know:

Mass of the Earth (M) =5.97e24
Radius of the Earth (R) =6.37e6
G is constant =6.67e-11

I used the equation:

Final velocity=square root (2GM/R)

square root ((2*6.67e-11*5.97e24)/(6.37e6+2.0e7))

And dividing the answer by 1000 to obtain km/s I get 5.50km/s.

The answer is 3.9km/s... I think my error may be related to adding the altitude to the radius of the Earth at the bottom of the equation, but I'm not sure.

Thanks guys!
 
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Yes, that's part of your problem. What's the extra 2 for in the numerator?

GM=3.986004418e14 (3.986e14 gets you more than close enough for this problem) meters (your way works too, but why multiply two constants together over and over). BTW, if you want smaller numbers, convert to km right off the bat, making GM=3.986e5.

You have to add in the radius of the Earth to convert altitude to radius.

Your equation for speed is:

\sqrt{\frac{GM}{r}}
 
dalitwil said:
I used the equation:

Final velocity=square root (2GM/R)
This equation is incorrect. Derive the correct equation using Newton's law of gravity and Newton's 2nd law of motion.
 
dalitwil said:
A typical GPS (Global Positioning System) satellite orbits at an altitude of 2.0e7 m.

Find the orbital speed of such a satellite in km/s.


So we know:

Mass of the Earth (M) =5.97e24
Radius of the Earth (R) =6.37e6
G is constant =6.67e-11

I used the equation:

Final velocity=square root (2GM/R)

square root ((2*6.67e-11*5.97e24)/(6.37e6+2.0e7))

And dividing the answer by 1000 to obtain km/s I get 5.50km/s.

The answer is 3.9km/s... I think my error may be related to adding the altitude to the radius of the Earth at the bottom of the equation, but I'm not sure.

Thanks guys!
{Radius of Earth} = R = {6.37e(+6) m}
{Mass Of Earth} = M = {5.97e(+24) kg}
{Gravitational Constant} = {6.67e(-11) N*m2*kg2}
{Mass of Satellite} = m
{Gravitational Force at Altitude (2.0e(+7) m)} = G*M*m/{R + 2.0e(+7)}2 =
= {6.67e(-11)}*{5.97e(+24)}*m/{6.37e(+6) + 2.0e(+7)}2 =
= (0.5726)*m

{Centripetal Force} = m*v2/{6.37e(+6) + 2.0e(+7)} =
= m*v2/{26.37e(+6)}

At equilibrium:
{Centripetal Force} = {Gravitational Force at Altitude (2.0e(+7) m)}
::: ⇒ m*v2/{26.37e(+6)} = (0.5726)*m
::: ⇒ v2 = (0.5726)*{26.37e(+6)}
::: ⇒ v = (3886 m/sec) = (3.886 km/sec)


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Your original equation
\sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}}
is the equation for escape velocity. You probably just mixed the two up.
 

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