What Is the Orbit of a Planet in a Gravitational Field with This Metric?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the orbit of a planet in a gravitational field defined by the metric dτ²=(1+α²(x²+y²))dt²-(dx²+dy²+dz²) in the Newtonian limit. Participants calculated the connection coefficients and established four geodesic equations, emphasizing the importance of the proper time parameter. A key conclusion is that in the Newtonian limit, the relationship dt/dτ = 1 simplifies the equations significantly. The weak-field approximation leads to a Newtonian potential of -1/2c²(1 + g₀₀), where g₀₀ = 1 + α²(x²+y²).

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Homework Statement


Find the orbit of a planet in a grav. field corresponding to the metric

d\tau^2=(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))dt^2-(dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)

in the Newtonian limit with the initial conditions at t=0, x=R, dx/dt=\beta,0=y=z=dy/dt=dz/dt where alpha and beta are cositive constants.

Homework Equations


The Levi-Civita connexion and the geodesic equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculates the connexion coefficients and wrote down the 4 geodesic equations with the proper time as the parameter:

\frac{d^2t}{d\tau^2}+\frac{2\alpha^2x}{(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))} \frac{dt}{d\tau}\frac{dx}{d\tau}+\frac{2\alpha^2y}{(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))}\frac{dt}{d\tau}\frac{dy}{d\tau}=0

\frac{d^2x}{d\tau^2}+\alpha^2x\left(\frac{dt}{d\tau}\right)^2=0

\frac{d^2y}{d\tau^2}+\alpha^2y\left(\frac{dt}{d\tau}\right)^2=0

\frac{d^2z}{d\tau^2}=0

I can solve the 4th equation of course:

z(\tau)=a\tau +b

and if I understand correctly, the Newtonian limit means that

\frac{dx^i}{d\tau}<<\frac{dt}{d\tau}

But I don't see how that can be applied here to simplify the equations.
 
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Homework Statement


Find the orbit of a planet in a grav. field corresponding to the metric

d\tau^2=(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))dt^2-(dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)

in the Newtonian limit with the initial conditions at t=0, x=R, dx/dt=\beta,0=y=z=dy/dt=dz/dt where alpha and beta are cositive constants.

Homework Equations


The Levi-Civita connexion and the geodesic equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculates the connexion coefficients and wrote down the 4 geodesic equations with the proper time as the parameter:

\frac{d^2t}{d\tau^2}+\frac{2\alpha^2x}{(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))} \frac{dt}{d\tau}\frac{dx}{d\tau}+\frac{2\alpha^2y}{(1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2))}\frac{dt}{d\tau}\frac{dy}{d\tau}=0

\frac{d^2x}{d\tau^2}+\alpha^2x\left(\frac{dt}{d\tau}\right)^2=0

\frac{d^2y}{d\tau^2}+\alpha^2y\left(\frac{dt}{d\tau}\right)^2=0

\frac{d^2z}{d\tau^2}=0

I can solve the 4th equation of course:

z(\tau)=a\tau +b

and if I understand correctly, the Newtonian limit means that

\frac{dx^i}{d\tau}<<\frac{dt}{d\tau}

But I don't see how that can be applied here to simplify the equations.


In the Newtonian limit you can set t = tau so \frac{dt}{d \tau} = 1.

And, of course, \frac{d^2t}{d \tau^2} =0.
So the equations become trivial to solve.
 
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Are you sure?

d\tau^2=g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}

And here, g_{ii}=-1, g_{00}=1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2) so

d\tau^2=(g_{00}-(dx/dt)^2-(dy/dt)^2-(dz/dt)^2)dt^2

and in the small speed limit, this only reduces to

d\tau^2\approx g_{00}dt^2

which is not just dtau=dt because g00 is not just 1.
 
quasar987 said:
Are you sure?

d\tau^2=g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu}

And here, g_{ii}=-1, g_{00}=1+\alpha^2(x^2+y^2) so

d\tau^2=(g_{00}-(dx/dt)^2-(dy/dt)^2-(dz/dt)^2)dt^2

and in the small speed limit, this only reduces to

d\tau^2\approx g_{00}dt^2

which is not just dtau=dt because g00 is not just 1.

You are right. Sorry, I had misread the spacetime interval and thought that the (1+alpha^2(x^2+y^2)) term went with the spatial part. So you have an expression for dt/dtau to replace in all the equations. Using the chain rule you can also get an expression for the second derivative d^2 t/dtau^2.

Sorry for my mistake.
 
Use the weak-field approximation, which gives a straight Newtonian potential of -
- \frac{1}{2}c^2( 1 + g_{00})

You can derive this by assuming the

g_{ij} = \eta_{ij} + h_{ij} where \eta is the flat space metric and h
is a small perturbation.
 
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