Grad School Application Tips for Non-Physics Majors: Steps to Success

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The discussion revolves around the steps and considerations for non-physics majors seeking to apply to graduate programs in physics or astronomy. Participants share insights on necessary coursework, preparation strategies, and recommendations for prospective students transitioning from other fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their lack of a physics background and seeks advice on suitable graduate programs and application strategies.
  • Another participant suggests taking modern physics and undergraduate astronomy courses to strengthen the applicant's foundation before applying to grad school.
  • Specific course recommendations include quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, advanced classical mechanics, optics, and mathematical physics, among others.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of having a comprehensive set of relevant courses for those entering astrophysics, stating that many of these courses are critical for credibility in the field.
  • It is noted that depending on research interests, some courses may be more relevant than others, and contacting research groups for guidance on necessary coursework is advised.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of taking specific foundational courses in physics and astronomy, though there is no consensus on the exact minimum requirements or the necessity of all suggested courses. Some participants emphasize the importance of certain subjects more than others, indicating a range of perspectives on preparation.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on which courses are absolutely essential, as well as the dependence on individual research interests and program requirements, which may vary significantly.

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Prospective graduate students from non-physics backgrounds considering a transition into physics or astronomy, as well as academic advisors and educators guiding such students.

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like many of you I'm sure, I am at an academic career crossroads. I graduated from Washington University in St. Louis in 2008 with a bachelor's in economics (though in actuality I was pre-med just couldn't finish the major on time) After realizing med school was not for me, I have moved onto physics/astronomy as my career goal.

It seems clear that I will have to go to a masters/phd physics program to complete this path. It also seems clear that I'm at a disadvantage, due to my lack of a physics major, and overall situation.

Basically I'm hoping to find out what the best schools/programs to apply to are, and what I need to do to get there. I have taken Calc 3 and other upper level math classes (I was a math major for a year before switching to econ) and Mechanics/E&M but I feel convinced that most programs would wish that I take more classes first.

Information concerning anything and everything about the application process would be greatly appreciated, and pretty much anything else that anyone thinks would be helpful. Thanks.
 
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I would highly recommend you take a year and pick up a couple of modern physics and undergraduate astronomy courses before you make the move to grad school. Since you don't mention any experience with non-Newtonian mechanics (IE Quantum interactions, Solid State, Relativity) which are all very important parts of a physics/astronomy career.
 
thanks. are there any specific classes you would recommend?
 
smiglet said:
thanks. are there any specific classes you would recommend?

You need 3-4 quantum courses, thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, the second year E&M, the third year classical mechanics, optics and mathematical physics (unless you already covered that stuff). I'd say that's the minimum.
 
The students I know entering astrophysics would have the following relevant courses (and I would highly recommend you take as many as possible):

E&M 1 and 2
Advanced Mechanics (Lagrangian mechanics)
Modern Physics (Intro to Quantum & Special Relativity)
Quantum 1 & 2 (Wave equations, Spins-Spin, perturbation theory)
Introduction to Nuclear Physics (Nuclear Models, Fundamental particles, Particle-Particle Interactions and Probabilities)
Astrophysics
Themodynamics (with statistical mechanics ideally)
Solid State Mechanics (depending on your astro course you might not need this)
General Relativity (or intro at the very least)
Optics (Would be very good for Astro)
Mathematical Physics (Vector calc, ODEs, PDEs, Numerical Methods, Fourier Analysis, intro to linear algebra)

I would have trouble taking an astrophysics student seriously without most of those courses at an undergrad level (even though you could still do a lot of work without some of them).

Depending on what you want to research you may be able to get away without some of them (for example computer modeling of galaxies / universe). Best thing to do would be contact some groups you would be interested in working with and ask them what courses that they think are most relevant to their research.
 

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