Grad-school chances looking slim: how can I improve them?

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The discussion centers on strategies for improving chances of acceptance into graduate studies in Physics, particularly for a third-year undergraduate student facing academic challenges. Participants explore various avenues for gaining experience and enhancing academic profiles, including summer work, course selection, and independent research opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests working for a professor for free over the summer and performing well in the next semester as a way to improve graduate school prospects.
  • Another participant humorously advises taking a summer job unrelated to physics to motivate harder work in college.
  • A different viewpoint proposes transferring out of the University of Toronto (U of T) as a beneficial move, while also recommending careful course selection and social engagement with professors to secure opportunities.
  • Suggestions include contacting professors at other universities for assistance and considering a "Supervised Reading" course to engage in research and potentially gain a recommendation.
  • The original poster expresses reluctance to take a low-skilled job, fearing it may lead to depression, and acknowledges the impracticality of transferring out of their current program at this stage.

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Participants present a variety of strategies, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some advocate for summer work and social engagement, while others emphasize the potential need to transfer or take alternative courses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective path forward.

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Participants express differing opinions on the value of the U of T Physics program and the implications of course selection on future opportunities. There is uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of various strategies proposed for improving graduate school applications.

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Undergraduate students in physics or related fields seeking advice on enhancing their academic profiles and graduate school applications may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm a 3rd year Physics undergraduate student at the University of Toronto, and my academic career seems to have hit rock bottom. The grades from my past term were absolutely dismal and I have (consequently?) been rejected by various professors for summer work. Since I am effectively unemployed for the next four months, I have plenty of time to allocate to further reading. However, what would you recommend I do to ameliorate my chances of being accepted for graduate studies in Physics? I have already considered trying to get something published - even contributing code to a physics-oriented open source project. Independent publication of significant research is quite difficult given my progress up the proverbial mountain of knowledge. Are there other avenues for me to examine?
 
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Try to work for a professor for free over the summer. Do extremely well your next semester.
 
Patient: It hurts when I do that.
Doctor: Don't do that.

Seriously, get a summer job flipping burgers or washing dishes. Nothing motivates more to work harder in college than flipping burgers.
 
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The best thing you could do for your physics career is to transfer out of U of T.

The next thing you can do is choose your courses wisely. Take PHY326 only when you 're not taking a full course load. Study with other people, make some physics friends at PASU. Don't take non-linear physics or condensed matter physics in your senior year, take macroscopic physics instead. Try to find opportunities to meet your prof, either at office hours or after class. Be a bit social with them and maybe you can land yourself a summer position.

You should try contacting profs at different universities for help. Unfortunately with the crappy GPAs U of T Physics gives, it's going to be hard no matter where you look. I sent out like 50 e-mails and fortunately someone finally said yes. :)

The only thing going to U of T Physics for your undergraduate degree is good for is going to U of T Physics for graduate school. If you want to do something else, then you've screwed yourself over. Engsci Physics, though it involves more work, is a better option for your career.

If nothing comes up for the summer, you can sign up for a "Supervised Reading" course during the summer, where you propose a topic you want to research and you read through articles and write up a report and present it at the end of the summer. In that way you'll get to meet regularly with a prof who might like you and hire you next summer or at the very least write you a good recommendation. Talk to Prof. Bailey (the undergraduate chair) about this.
 
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Thanks for the responses.

Dr. Courtney: I'm averse to flipping burgers for http://pictures.pichaus.com/95b70d92c70703496ea27d0c4ca3289315f1775f?AWSAccessKeyId=0K4RZZKHSB5N2XYJWF02&Expires=1207860000&Signature=a9%2BcuJEeSMway7k3BOxa5KokPxM%3D" . Getting hooked onto that job will eventually lead to depression if I do make it to grad-school!

vincebs: Thanks for the advice. I will surely look into the supervised reading courses. Transferring out of the Physics specialist stream at this point would be unwise, since I have already sunk a lot of time and money into it and there is only 1 year remaining.
 
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