Obtaining Energy from Stars: Grand Challenge

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The forum discussion centers on innovative methods for obtaining energy from stars, explicitly excluding well-established techniques such as photovoltaics, mirror concentrators, and Dyson spheres. Participants emphasize the need for creative solutions beyond conventional approaches, with suggestions including advanced optics, large-source Fresnel diffraction plate engineering, and beamed energy. The conversation highlights the challenges of harnessing solar energy effectively, particularly in comparison to nuclear fission, while recognizing the Sun's vast energy potential as a Grand Challenge for future exploration.

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  • Understanding of advanced optics and photonics
  • Familiarity with energy conversion technologies
  • Knowledge of black hole physics, specifically the Penrose process
  • Insight into quantum entanglement and wave manipulation techniques
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  • Research large-source Fresnel diffraction plate engineering
  • Explore beamed energy transmission technologies
  • Investigate synchrotron radiation sources for energy generation
  • Study sub-wavelength wave manipulation and its applications
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Researchers, physicists, and engineers interested in innovative energy solutions, particularly those exploring advanced methods for harnessing solar energy and addressing the Grand Challenge of energy acquisition from stars.

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What is the most effective way to obtain energy from a star? Answers may not include:

1. photovoltaics
2. mirror concentrators

since they are already well understood.
 
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The Penrose process. It only works for a Kerr black hole, though.
 
Photosynthesis
 
InfernoSun said:
What is the most effective way to obtain energy from a star?

A Dyson sphere would seem to be one of the most effective way of gathering energy from a star without interfering with it.
 
Please define "effective". Conversion efficiency? Budgetary? Maximium yield?
 
"Effective" means whatever you think would work. Solutions need to be more creative though. Concepts may not include (updated):

1. photovoltaics
2. mirror concentrators
3. photosynthesis
4. Dyson spheres
5. black hole physics

... unless they are truly honest-to-god sophisticated and have a chance of working.
 
InfernoSun said:
"Effective" means whatever you think would work. Solutions need to be more creative though.

Perhaps you should be a little bit more specific. We can't read your mind and there's nothing wrong with those things suggested so far.
 
(moved to the Homework Help section)

InfernoSun,

No one here is simply going to do your homework for you. We can help you if you get stuck, but simply asking us to give you "creative solutions" to pass off as your own will not likely get you much credibility here. Can you think of any solutions? We could discuss their various merits with you.

- Warren
 
I'm a little disappointed in the responses, particularly that this thread was moved to "Homework-Grade K-12" category as it is almost certainly too advanced a subject for even university bachelors degree level.

I was hoping to see something along the lines of advanced optics: large-source fresnel diffraction plate engineering, staged coherent radiation sources, synchrotron sources, beamed energy, sub-wavelength wave manipulation, maybe even waveguides based on distantly-separated quantum-entangled optical apertures.

Nothing I've investigated can provide industrial power levels to Earth at a cost that competes with nuclear fission. Too bad considering how much energy is given off by the Sun. Enough to power millions of civilizations like ours. It's the most abundant source of energy in the universe, the most reliable, the most long-lasting, the highest capacity, and seemingly the least accessible.

Ergo, I present it as a Grand Challenge.
 

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