Graphing Particle Motion in 3D on iPad App

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of graphing a particle's motion in three dimensions using an iPad application that does not support parametric equations. Participants explore alternative methods for representing a helix and the requirements of the app for plotting 3D curves.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses the need to graph a helix in 3D without using parametric equations, indicating that verbal explanations are insufficient.
  • Another participant suggests expressing the helix with two functions, y(x) and z(x), but notes that this still resembles parametric equations.
  • A later reply clarifies that the app requires a single equation in Cartesian coordinates.
  • There is a question about whether the required form is an implicit equation, with a request for examples to clarify the expectations.
  • Concerns are raised about the app's capability to plot lines versus surface plots, suggesting that representing a curve may be complicated if the app only supports surface plots.
  • One participant proposes using polar coordinates as a potential solution but questions if this introduces too many equations.
  • Ultimately, one participant decides to switch to using a computer, indicating limitations with the iPad app for surface plots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to graph the helix effectively within the constraints of the app. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the app's requirement for a single equation and the uncertainty about its ability to plot curves versus surfaces. There is also ambiguity regarding the specific form of the equation needed for successful graphing.

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I have been working on something in my spare time and I have to graph the particle's motion in three dimensions because trying to explain it in words has not been working. How can a helix be graphed without parametric equations (the iPad app I'm using will not work with parametric equations)? Explaining what is happening and where the interference is coming from is hard and it works better to show someone.
 
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So you need to express it with two functions like this?
y(x) = ..
z(x) = ..
That's for a helix with the axis parallel to x. Still looks like parametric equations. What exactly does the app require for plotting a 3D curve?
 
It needs to be a single equation. Cartesian coordinates are preferred.
 
theobserver said:
It needs to be a single equation. Cartesian coordinates are preferred.

You mean an implicit equation? I still don't know what form you want it in. Can you give an example.

Are you sure your graphing app can plot lines? Or does it just do surface plots like z=f(x,y) ? In that case it would be hideously complicated. You'd need to make the function undefined everywhere except on the curve, and even then the app may not notice the curve at all.

You suggest it can use polar coordinates, so how about:
z=theta
r=1
Or is that too many equations?
 
I just decided to use a computer. I think I can only do surface plots on the iPad :(
 

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