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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving gravimetric analysis of an unknown solid containing barium chloride dihydrate (BaCl2·2H2O). Participants explore the calculation of the weight percent of barium in the original sample after heating, which drives off water of crystallization. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the assumptions made in the analysis.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the weight percent of barium based on the mass loss after heating but questions the accuracy of their answer, suggesting they may be missing something regarding the water content.
  • Another participant proposes that if the sample only contained water of crystallization, the percent barium could be calculated directly from the formula weights without needing experimental data.
  • A third participant suggests calculating the theoretical percent of water of crystallization based on the mass loss observed in the experiment.
  • One participant expresses concern that the problem may imply the presence of other compounds in addition to hydrated barium chloride, complicating the analysis.
  • Another participant questions whether the amount of barium would remain constant in the total sample due to moles, suggesting a calculation based on molecular weights.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the sample is described as "unknown," indicating that it may not be a pure substance, which affects the assumptions about the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the sample or the correct approach to the calculations. There are multiple competing views regarding the assumptions that can be made about the composition of the unknown solid and how to accurately determine the weight percent of barium.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in the problem, including the ambiguity of the sample composition and the implications of the mass loss during heating. There is uncertainty regarding whether the loss of mass is solely due to water of crystallization or if other components are involved.

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Homework Statement


Consider an unknown solid containing BaCl2. 2H2O (MW = 244.26296). When the unknown is heated to 160 °C for 1 h, the water of crystallization is driven off:

BaCl2.2H2O(s) ---> BaCl2(s)+ 2 H2O(g)

A sample originally weighing 1.9226 g weighed 1.5647 g after heating. Calculate the weight percent of Ba (MW=137.327) in the original sample. BaCl2: MW=208.2324; H2O: MW=18.0153


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The Attempt at a Solution



I think I'm missing something with the water, but I'm not sure how to work it in.

I figured out mol of BaCl2*2H20
1.9226 g / 244.26296 g/mol = 7.8710 mmol

Calculated moles of BaCl2
1.5647 g/208.2324 g/mol = 7.514 mmol

Converted this to moles Ba

7.514 mmol * 137.327 g/mol = 1.0319026 g

Divided this by original weight to obtain w/w %

1.0319 g/1.9226 g = 53.67 %

This is not the right answer.
 
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If you already know the compound's composition, and you want to find the percent Barium in the sample, was the sample also wet with more than just water of crystalization? If it only had the water of crystalization, then you need none of the experiemental weighings. Just use formula weights of the compound.

You might have misworded your question, so I will take a thought path according to this idea. After heating, you only have weight of DRY, no water, BaCl2.
Percent BaCl2 = (1.5647g)*100/(1.9226g).

Now, can you simply find percent Ba in BaCl2 and finish your question?
 
That question is exactly word for word from the book.
 
Based on post #3, I also suggest you calculate the theoretical percent water of crystalization to your experimentally determined loss of mass from your sample.
 
Seems to me like there is something wrong with the question.

Unknow solid seems to be suggesting it is a mixture containing hydrated barium chloride and something else.

Heated sample lost 0.3579 g. Assuming it lost only water, that was 0.01987 moles of water. Assuming all water was from hydrated barium chloride, that means 9.933x10-3 moles of chloride. That in turn means 2.426 g of hydrated chloride, more than initial mass.

I have no idea what other assumptions can be made. If sample lost water and something else, amount of barium chloride can be anything.

I can be missing something, but I have no idea what else can be tried.
 
One thing I was just thinking. Would amount of Ba always be the same in the total sample because of moles?

Does it make sense to just take MW Ba/MW BaCl2*2H2O = 137.327/244.26296 = 56.22%
 
Maharg said:
Would amount of Ba always be the same in the total sample because of moles?

In the pure dihydrate of barium chloride - yes. But you are not told it's a pure substance, quite the opposite - you are told it is "unknown soild containing". That suggests other compounds are present as well.
 

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