Gravitational acceleration comparison

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The problem involves deriving the difference in gravitational acceleration experienced by an object at two different distances from a gravitating mass. The context is gravitational physics, specifically focusing on the formula for gravitational acceleration and its implications at varying distances.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to derive the difference in gravitational acceleration and questions how to apply the derived formula to specific cases. Some participants suggest revisiting course material and emphasize the importance of making an effort to solve the problem independently.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in exploring the mathematical derivation of the gravitational acceleration difference. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of common denominators and the Binomial expansion for simplifying expressions. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct approach to the problem without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the assumption that the length “l” is small compared to the distance “r,” which is crucial for the derivation. The specific values for the two cases presented by the original poster are also noted as part of the problem context.

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Homework Statement


Suppose an object of length “l” is located a distance “r” from a gravitating object of mass “M.” From physics you will learn that the gravitational acceleration is GM/r^2. Derive the difference in gravitational acceleration between distance “r” and distance “r+l” from the object. Show that as long as “l” is small compared to “r” (i.e., r >>l), the result is (2GM/r^3)l. Calculate this difference for the following two cases. What would happen to each person?

a). A person of height l=170 cm located r=1000 km from a 1.5 MSun neutron star.

b). The same person a distance 10^10 km (i.e., the width of a Solar System) from a 10^9 MSun black-hole as could be present in the nucleus of a typical galaxy.

Homework Equations


GM/r^2
(2GM/r^3)l

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought the difference would just be GM/(r+l)^2 - GM/r^2, and if l was small enough as compared to the other values the difference would be virtually 0. I don't know how the (2GM/r^3)l is derived and that's where I'm stuck. For the two people, would the given values be plugged into the regular gravitational acceleration equation or the one derived for the difference?
 
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You need go be able to make an effort at solving the problem yourself. If necessary, by revising the course material on which the question is based. Do you really know nothing about gravity?
 
PeroK said:
Welcome to PF!

You need go be able to make an effort at solving the problem yourself. If necessary, by revising the course material on which the question is based. Do you really know nothing about gravity?
I edited to include my initial thought process.
 
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Ellie Snyder said:
GM/(r+l)^2 - GM/r^2
Put that over a common denominator and keep solving... :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Put that over a common denominator and keep solving... :smile:
Do you mean give the two terms a common denominator of r^2(r+l)^2, which yields (r^2-(r+l)^2)/(r^2(r+l)^2)?
Or do you mean put that entire thing over some common denominator?
 
Ellie Snyder said:
Do you mean give the two terms a common denominator of r^2(r+l)^2, which yields (r^2-(r+l)^2)/(r^2(r+l)^2)?
Or do you mean put that entire thing over some common denominator?

Do you know about the Binomial expansion for negative powers? That's usually the trick in these cases where you have one variable ##<<## another. That's almost certainly what you're expected to use here.

Note that ##\frac{GM}{r^2} > \frac{GM}{(r+l)^2}## so I would set ##a = \frac{GM}{r^2} - \frac{GM}{(r+l)^2}## so you get a positive difference. Then hit this with the Binomial theorem.
 

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