Angular momentum of orbit from orbit parameters and mass of sun

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Kaguro
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Homework Statement
A planet of mass m moves in the gravitational field of sun ( mass M). If semi major and minor axes are a and b respectively, the angular momentum of the planet is what?
Relevant Equations
Area of ellipse ##\pi ab##

Kepler's laws
L = mvr = mr (dr/dt) = 2m*r*(dr/dt)/2 = 2m*(dA/dt)
So, A = (L/2m)T
so, ## L = \frac{2 \pi a b m}{T}##

Now, ##T^2 = \frac{4 \pi^2}{GM} a^3##
So from all these, I get
##L = \sqrt{ \frac{GM m^2 b^2}{a}}##

But answer given is
##L = \sqrt{ \frac{2GM m^2 ab}{a+b}}##
(This, they have derived from energy and angular momentum conservation.)

What is wrong? Where's this inconsistency coming from?
 
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Kaguro said:
Homework Statement:: A planet of mass m moves in the gravitational field of sun ( mass M). If semi major and minor axes are a and b respectively, the angular momentum of the planet is what?
Relevant Equations:: Area of ellipse ##\pi ab##

Kepler's laws

L = mvr = mr (dr/dt) = 2m*r*(dr/dt)/2 = 2m*(dA/dt)
So, A = (L/2m)T
so, ## L = \frac{2 \pi a b m}{T}##

Now, ##T^2 = \frac{4 \pi^2}{GM} a^3##
So from all these, I get
##L = \sqrt{ \frac{GM m^2 b^2}{a}}##

But answer given is
##L = \sqrt{ \frac{2GM m^2 ab}{a+b}}##
(This, they have derived from energy and angular momentum conservation.)

What is wrong? Where's this inconsistency coming from?
I prefer your answer. So does this:

https://www.lehman.edu/faculty/anchordoqui/chapter25.pdf

See equation 25.B.20.

Why didn't you find that pdf? :wink:
 
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Cant find a mistake in your answer either.

Just to rewrite your first line using cross product because the way it is written as simple multiplication is wrong
$$\vec{L}=m\vec{r}\times\frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}=2m\frac{1}{2}\vec{r}\times\frac{d\vec{r}}{dt}\Rightarrow |\vec{L}|=2m\frac{dA}{dt}$$ where ##A## is the area that the radius vector ##\vec{r}## spans.
 
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Ah...

I now realize that the answer given is wrong, because they assumed the orbit is circular.
When I put a=b, the two answers are consistent.

But even after assuming that a=b, they still wrote them as though they are different.

Thank you both of you.
 
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