How Do You Calculate 4-Acceleration in Schwarzschild Coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around calculating four-acceleration in Schwarzschild coordinates, specifically addressing the implications of metric signatures and the behavior of Christoffel symbols in general relativity.

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  • Participants explore the equation for four-acceleration and the implications of using Schwarzschild coordinates. There is a focus on the correct interpretation of metric components and the resulting signs in calculations. Questions arise regarding assumptions made about four-velocities and the impact of metric signature on results.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the assumptions about four-velocities and the correct handling of metric components. There is an ongoing exploration of sign conventions and their effects on the calculations, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach.

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Participants express confusion over sign conventions and the handling of metric components, indicating a potential area of misunderstanding that may affect their calculations. The discussion reflects the complexity of working within the framework of general relativity and the nuances of Schwarzschild coordinates.

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Find the 4-acceleration of a particle at rest on the surface of a non-rotating planet of mass ##M##
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I'd just like a bit of guidance here, because I'm not sure if what I'm doing is correct. First, the equation of the motion,$$A^{\mu} = \frac{dU^{\mu}}{d\tau} + \Gamma^{\mu}_{\sigma \rho} U^{\sigma}U^{\rho}$$I decided to use the Schwarzschild coordinates ##(t,r,\theta, \phi)##, and in these coordinates I can take ##U^r = U^{\theta} = U^{\phi} = 0##. Since the coordinate acceleration is zero we get$$A^{\mu} = \Gamma^{\mu}_{tt} U^t U^t$$The relevant Christoffel symbol$$\Gamma^{\mu}_{tt} = \frac{1}{2} g^{\mu m} \left( \frac{\partial g_{mt}}{\partial x^t} + \frac{\partial g_{mt}}{\partial x^t} - \frac{\partial g_{tt}}{\partial x^m} \right) = - \frac{1}{2} g^{\mu r} \frac{\partial g_{tt}}{\partial r}$$where I used that the metric is time-independent and that ##g_{tt}## depends only on ##r##, i.e.$$g_{tt} = - \left(1- \frac{2GM}{r} \right) \iff \frac{\partial g_{tt}}{\partial r} = - \frac{2GM}{r^2}$$and so$$A^{\mu} = g^{\mu r} \frac{GM}{r^2}$$So for instance, if ##\mu = r##, we get$$g^{rr} = \left(\frac{2GM}{r} - 1 \right)^{-1} = - \left( 1 + \frac{2GM}{r} \right) + \mathcal{O}(r^{-2})$$and then$$A^{\mu} = - \left( 1 + \frac{2GM}{r} \right) \cdot \frac{GM}{r^2} = - \frac{GM}{r^2} + \mathcal{O}(r^{-3})$$I wondered, why did I get a minus sign? I expected the four-acceleration to have a positive radial component. I wonder if I've mixed up the metric signature somewhere, but don't know where. thanks!
 
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Not quite. You seem to have assumed that ##U^t=1##, but ##g_{\mu\nu}U^\mu U^\nu=-1##, so ##U^t=1/\sqrt{|g_{tt}|}## (edit: and not ##U^t=1/\sqrt{g_{tt}}## as I originally wrote) in this case. (Edit: if I finally kept the sign conventions straight, anyway...)
 
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Thanks! I also can't seem to get the signs of the metric components right. Starting from where it went wrong,$$A^{\mu} = g^{\mu r} \frac{GM}{r^2} U^t U^t = \frac{g^{\mu r}}{g_{tt}} \frac{GM}{r^2}$$then with$$g^{rr} = (g_{rr})^{-1} = \left(1- \frac{2GM}{r} \right)$$and$$g_{tt} = -\left( 1- \frac{2GM}{r} \right)$$and in that case $$A^{r} = - \frac{GM}{r^2}$$ exactly, but now still with an incorrect sign :cry:
 
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I made a mistake in my last post - I said that ##U^t=1/\sqrt{g_{tt}}##, but it's ##1/\sqrt{|g_{tt}|}##, so ##g_{tt}U^tU^t=\mathrm{sgn}(g_{tt})=-1##. When I correct that I get the right answer. My Christoffel symbols agree with yours, so I think you've just made the same mistake.

Sign conventions are an unbelievable pain. I like +--- because four velocities have positive moduli, and that fits in my brain better.
 
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Ah, okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's annoying. In the future I'll make more of an effort to make an even number of sign errors.

Also, have a nice new year's eve! 🥃🍾🍻🤮
 

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