Gravitational Acceleration inside a Planet

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The problem involves calculating the gravitational acceleration inside a spherical planet of uniform density, specifically focusing on deriving expressions for the acceleration due to gravity at a distance from the center of the planet. The discussion includes two parts: finding an expression for gravitational acceleration in terms of density and radius, and then rewriting that expression in terms of the gravitational acceleration at the planet's surface.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to express gravitational acceleration in terms of surface gravity and explore how to eliminate constants like G and density from their expressions. Some express confusion about the relationship between mass and gravitational acceleration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and uncertainties. Some have provided hints about substituting known values and relationships, while others express confusion about how to proceed with the second part of the question. There is a mix of understanding and uncertainty, with some participants suggesting specific substitutions to clarify the problem.

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Some participants mention feeling overwhelmed and unsure about the relevance of certain formulas, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying concepts of gravitational acceleration and mass relationships.

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The problem:

Consider a spherical planet of uniform density [tex]\rho[/tex]. The distance from the planet's center to its surface (i.e., the planet's radius) is [tex]R_{p}[/tex]. An object is located a distance [tex]R[/tex] from the center of the planet, where [tex]R\precR_{p}[/tex] . (The object is located inside of the planet.)

Part A

Find an expression for the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity, [tex]g(R)[/tex] , inside the planet.

Express the acceleration due to gravity in terms of [tex]\rho[/tex], [tex]R[/tex], [tex]\pi[/tex], and [tex]G[/tex], the universal gravitational constant.

Part B

Rewrite your result for [tex]g(R)[/tex] in terms of [tex]g_{p}[/tex], the gravitational acceleration at the surface of the planet, times a function of R.

Express your answer in terms of [tex]g_{p}[/tex], [tex]R[/tex], and [tex]R_{p}[/tex].

My attempt at a solution:

I determined the answer to Part A to be [tex]g(R)=(4/3)G\rho \pi R[/tex]. However, I am uncertain how to find the answer to Part B. I barely even understand what they are asking me to do. I could really use some hints to point me in the right direction.

Thanks.
 
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They want you to eliminate G, rho etc, and express the ans you got in terms of g at surface.

You do know that M = (4/3)pi*Rp^3*rho. Also, you should know g at surface using law of gravitation. Use all these to eliminate the unwanted stuff.
 
Ok, well I've tried to work this out, but I'm basically just guessing at everything--I'm that clueless. I don't even see how knowing M will help me. I don't know what to do.
 
Superfluous said:
Express your answer in terms of [tex]g_{p}[/tex], [tex]R[/tex], and [tex]R_{p}[/tex].

What the question is asking you to do is to find some function [itex]f[/itex] such that

[tex]g(R) = f(g_p,R_p,R)[/tex]

In other words, somehow replace the [itex]G[/itex] and [itex]\rho[/itex] from the solution already at hand,

[tex]g(R) = \frac 4 3 G \pho \pi R[/tex]

with [itex]g_p[/itex] and [itex]R_p[/itex]. What is [itex]g_p[/itex]?
 
Superfluous said:
Ok, well I've tried to work this out, but I'm basically just guessing at everything--I'm that clueless. I don't even see how knowing M will help me. I don't know what to do.

Put Rp in place of R in the formula you derived in our first post. Remember, g(Rp) is the g_p at the surface. So, you can write g(R) in terms of g_p and R.
 
i'm doing the same question, got the first part right and i got to admit, i still don't get it, i know it has something to do with substiting the value of g_p but and that that can be obtained by using the universal law of gravitation, but after that i am stumped.
 
just worked it out, you got to subsitute formulae and you should end up with R*g_p/R_p
 

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