Gravitational field intensity at the center of the earth

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The discussion revolves around the gravitational field intensity at the center of the Earth, exploring concepts related to gravitational forces and field intensity in the context of a spherical mass distribution.

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  • Participants discuss the reasoning behind the gravitational field intensity being zero at the center of the Earth, referencing the surrounding mass and the nature of gravitational forces. Questions arise regarding the application of gravitational field formulas and the implications of substituting zero for the radius.

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Some participants provide insights into the reasoning behind the gravitational acceleration being zero at the center, while others clarify the correct application of gravitational laws. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding mass distribution and gravitational effects.

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Participants note the potential confusion arising from the mathematical treatment of gravitational formulas when the radius approaches zero, and the implications of density variations within the Earth.

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what is the gravitational field intensity at the center of the earth

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i was told that it was zero because you have the Earth's mass surrounding it, and graivty moves to the center of its mass (center of radius) therefore the net force would be zero? is this correct?

also if you sub in 0 in the gravitational field intensity formula for the radius, you get a value over zero, meaning it is undefined... so i can't really use that to support why it is zero at the center...

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I Like Pi said:
i was told that it was zero because you have the Earth's mass surrounding it, and graivty moves to the center of its mass (center of radius) therefore the net force would be zero? is this correct?
Yes - in simple terms, ignoring the moon and tidal effects

also if you sub in 0 in the gravitational field intensity formula for the radius, you get a value over zero, meaning it is undefined
You also have zero mass inside that radius so it's zero/zero.
In fact you should be thinking about 'r' as the distance to each bit of mass above you - and since the Earth is all around you there is an equal force in every direction out from the centre - hence zero overall field
 
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I Like Pi said:
i was told that it was zero because you have the Earth's mass surrounding it, and graivty moves to the center of its mass (center of radius) therefore the net force would be zero? is this correct?
You presumably are asking about gravitational acceleration, and yes, this is correct. A reasonably good model for the Earth is that it is a sphere whose density is a function of distance from the center of the Earth (and nothing else). With this model, the gravitation acceleration at some point inside the surface of the Earth depends only on that portion of the Earth that is closer to the center of the Earth than is the point in question. Imagine dividing the Earth into two parts, one part being the portion of the Earth closer to the center of the Earth than the point in question and the other part being the portion of the Earth from from the center of the Earth than the point in question. The gravitational acceleration at the point in question is the sum of the gravitational acceleration toward the inner part plus the gravitational acceleration toward the outer part. The contribution of the outer portion is identically zero because the gravitational acceleration anywhere inside a spherical shell of mass is identically zero. All that remains is the contribution from the inner portion,

a(r) = \frac{GM_{\text{inner}}}{r^2}

where Minner is the mass of that inner portion.

also if you sub in 0 in the gravitational field intensity formula for the radius, you get a value over zero, meaning it is undefined... so i can't really use that to support why it is zero at the center...
That's because you are using Newton's law incorrectly. The correct usage is to only use the mass at or below the point in question.

If the density of the Earth is finite at every point inside the Earth, including at the center, then as r approaches zero, the inner mass will approach zero much faster than will r2. That in turn means that a(r)→0 as r→0.
 
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