Gravitational Force of a rocket

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The discussion revolves around determining the altitude a rocket must reach above Earth's surface for its weight to be half of what it is on the surface. The subject area includes gravitational force and the application of Newton's law of gravitation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the gravitational force equation and attempt to manipulate it for a specific scenario. Questions arise regarding the application of ratios and the interpretation of variables in the context of the problem. Some participants express confusion about how to relate the distance from Earth's center to the altitude above the surface.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the variables involved, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem without numerical values. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being discussed, particularly regarding the conversion of units and the final altitude calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of unit consistency, specifically the need to convert the Earth's radius into kilometers for the final answer. There is also a mention of homework constraints regarding how the question is framed.

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Homework Statement



How high does a rocket have to go above Earth's surfae before its weight is half what it would be on earth

Homework Equations



F=GMeMr/r^2, however there are too many variables here to use

The Attempt at a Solution



F/2=GMeMr/((sq root 2)r))^2, but I don;t know if this is right or how to use it without numbers
 
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skins266 said:

Homework Statement



How high does a rocket have to go above Earth's surfae before its weight is half what it would be on earth

Homework Equations



F=GMeMr/r^2, however there are too many variables here to use

The Attempt at a Solution



F/2=GMeMr/((sq root 2)r))^2, but I don;t know if this is right or how to use it without numbers

You can deal with this without numbers by using a comparison ratio. The weight of the rocket on the Earth's surface is

W = GMeMr/(Re^2) ,

where Re is the Earth's radius (that's how far the Earth's surface is from its center, which is the r we need in order to apply Newton's gravitation law here.

At the position we're interested in,

(1/2)W = GMeMr/(r^2) ,

where r is the distance from Earth's center that we need to solve for.

What happens when you divide the second equation by the first one? Can you solve the result for r? How do you apply this result to the original question?
 
So I will get 1/Re^2 = 2/r^2 and then r = Re - x where x is the distance to the rocket? But then I get lost on applying it to the question.
 
skins266 said:
So I will get 1/Re^2 = 2/r^2 and then r = Re - x where x is the distance to the rocket? But then I get lost on applying it to the question.

So this tells you that r^2 = 2 · (Re^2) or r = (Re) · sqrt(2). So the rocket must be about 1.414 times the Earth's radius from the Earth's center. How far does that put it above the Earth's surface? That is the altitude the problem asks for.
 
so r = Re(sqrt2) so r = 6.38E6*sqrt2. Which then equals 9022682.528, but when I punch that number into WebAssign it is wrong, so is it not in km, or what
 
skins266 said:
so r = Re(sqrt2) so r = 6.38E6*sqrt2. Which then equals 9022682.528, but when I punch that number into WebAssign it is wrong, so is it not in km, or what

First off, this is the distance from the center of Earth; the problem asks for the distance above Earth's surface, so you have to subtract Re. This will give you

x = Re · [ sqrt(2) - 1 ] .

Secondly, you are using the radius of Earth in meters. You didn't mention it in your original posting, but what units does the problem ask for?
 
Oh yeah, my bad. It is in km and so my radius would be 6.38E3 and then the answer would be 2642.68 ... which is right. Thanks for your help.
 
skins266 said:
Oh yeah, my bad. It is in km and so my radius would be 6.38E3 and then the answer would be 2642.68 ... which is right. Thanks for your help.

Great! Be sure to read these kinds of questions carefully. There is often a homework or exam problem which asks for altitude or gives information in terms of the altitude, rather than the distance to the center of the Earth.
 

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